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I'll do a quick gallop through the rest.

I had no trouble getting to Ullapool that morning on 28% - it was less than 30 miles and a drop of 800 feet. Got charged, but the boat trip I booked was cancelled because of poor visibility. This was a surprise as the sun was splitting the sky and the visibility looked perfect, but I think there was a temperature inversion causing a bank of cloud right where the trip was going.

I had another drive to a place where you can actually see Loch Maree (as opposed to the occasional glimpse of water between the birches lining the roadside) then headed for Lochinver and Clachtoll. I knew the Clachtoll campsite was full, and @QLeo, who lives in the area, was able to tell me the Achmelvich sites were also full. I saw a nice camping possibility by the roadside, but then I saw a smaller campsite in Clachtoll itself which had space, and foolishly decided to go there. Not one of my better decisions.

I made a detour to meet @QLeo, also met Goth Leo and saw the off-grid set-up with the pile of lead-acid batteries, the solar panels and the wind turbine, a very impressive arrangement.

I should have gone back to the roadside spot I had noted (which QLeo had also suggested) and only if that was taken tried the small camp site by the shore. But for some reason I went back to the camp site and started to set up. Then the owner (whom I had phoned - it was a very ad-hoc set-up) appeared. This was the point when I discovered he wanted £20 for one car for one night in a rough site where the only actual facility was a standpipe for fresh water, It was also the point when I should have told him where to put his £20 and gone back to the roadside spot, but I was already more than half set up and like an idiot I paid him. For information, the going rate for these places in camp sites with decent facilities is £12. The one I didn't get into the previous evening was £7.50.

So here was the problem. If you're by yourself in a roadside spot you probably have reasonable privacy, so you can get dressed and undressed beside the car without too much loss of modesty, and can sneak off to find a suitable patch of grass if need be without being observed. If you're in a camp site you have less privacy, but it's convivial, and there are toilet/shower blocks where you can change, and obviously no need for patches of grass. In this place there was no privacy and no facilities.

Campervans on all sides, and the side of the car I had positioned alongside the wall of the derelict cottage in the middle of the site, for privacy, turned out to be right where the canoeists were washing the sand off their canoes. The campervan facing me, which had had its curtains closed, opened them to watch the sunset and didn't close them again till 9.30 so I was overlooked by the two people sitting at the window all that time. (My front windscreen cover hasn't yet arrived.) Once these curtains were closed I could start to get to bed. No facilities, and all the useful-looking patches of rough grass were overlooked, so it was a walk in the dark with a torch down on to the beach and below the high tide mark. Repeat performance in the morning after I'd managed to get dressed between the two open (and curtained) right-hand doors of the car. [ETA: I forgot the part where I was about to get into bed when I realised my airbed was half-deflated. I hadn't closed the bung carefully enough. I had to wake up VtL again, get the pump out of the box, and re-inflate it. This was particularly embarrassing - it's noisy - due to the fact that a neighbouring campervan had complained that I was still playing my radio at 8.30pm.]

[ETA again: I also forgot about the semaphore thing. There was more breeze than usual, and although it didn't blow the magnetic curtains off the DRLs, it caused them to flap up a bit, sometimes with part of the curtain lying on the bonnet of the car. If anyone was watching it must have looked like some weird sort of semaphore. I think I was the only person who noticed, but it was slightly annoying to me. I was wondering about some way to stick the bottoms of the curtains down. I even warned the couple in front of me at Durness about it, and he said he'd reverse his car to sit between my lights and their tent if necessary, but in fact the curtains didn't move that night. Clachtoll was just jinxed.]

£20 for that, what a bloody nerve. He saw me coming. Obviously.

I went into Lochinver in the morning to charge the car, and had an absolutely magnificent lunch at a place called Delilah's. Steak frites done with about a dozen different sorts of mushroom, and garlic. (I should have taken a photo.) Then I headed north again. I got further than I thought I might, because I decided driving was more fun than doing more tourist things. I managed to get milk and bread in Scourie despite its being Sunday, but then headed on, reaching the camp site in Durness around four.

What a contrast. Stacks of space, fantastic views. Toilet and shower blocks, facilities for washing up cutlery/crockery, and coin-operated washing machines. For the standard £12 charge. Also, a closed hatch with a sign above reading "Breakfast Bar". I was able to change in the clean and well-appointed Ladies room, and wash in hot water. I had a comfortable night, slept till almost nine, then when I was going back to the toilet block to get dressed I saw the breakfast bar was open. Bacon roll (three rashers) and a cup of tea for £5. So I didn't need to get the kettle out in the morning at all, neither to wash nor to make tea.

By this time it had clouded over and the forecast suggested rain in the afternoon. The car charger was only a couple of hundred yards from the entrance to the camp site, so I gave Caliban the full CPS-permitted hour and set off south. It was still quite nice in the morning and I took more minor roads rather than the direct route. I stopped for lunch in a layby that would have been another nice place to camp, and made it to the Inverness superchargers mid-afternoon. These are in a multi-storey car park which Google initially deposited me at the EXIT to, but in the end I got in and Caliban was getting 87 kw. I was getting coffee in a nearby café. You don't have to pay for parking if you're only charging your car.

QLeo had warned me about the startling loss of range seen as you drive south out of Inverness, as you're climbing all the time, so I took plenty on. My feeling was that if I was still ahead of the game by the summit of the Drumochter pass I'd be fine, as that's about 1,500 feet and Perth is virtually sea level. I had five miles in hand at that point, and I was fine. Although I knew there were plenty 50 kw units around if I'd miscalculated. As I got over the summit the weather was plunged from a bit overcast but basically nice, to fog and cold and threatening rain. The weather in the south of Scotland I'd seen on my solar array monitor on my phone, and had been trying to get away from.

The Perth superchargers are up at the top of a big car park at the Broxden services. There's a McDonald's, but it's better to get something from their drive-through window and take it up there to eat in the car, especially when it's dark. Probably even better to drive through the town centre on the way there (rather than take the bypass) and pick up a proper fish supper or a pizza or something.

M90 closed on the way home, so diverted through Edinburgh. Then the A702 was also closed, so I ended up getting home over the moor road in the fog which was too thick to see where the passing places were. Fortunately I only met one Land Rover and we squeezed by. Got home at 9.30 with Caliban on 17%.

Went out this morning to visit the body shop for an estimate on the damage, and collect the cat, and by the time that was done Caliban was on 8% and ready for another shot at the long charge tonight.

And that's about it. Super fun, very comfortable, cheapest possible way of doing it short of backpacking a tent, just needs a bit of practice on what to take, where to put things and how to do things. A bit more about that last later. But we're home now, and ready for the obvious onset of real autumn weather.
There’s certainly a lot of variation in prices verses facilities. £12 at Kilchoan, Applecross and Fidden (at Fionnphort near Iona) were all excellent. I tried one near Eilean Donan and with a straight face the guy said £39. ? I left it for some other weary traveller more used to the golden toilets they obviously have fitted.
I’ve posted elsewhere about my 14 hour 415 mile trip yesterday to cross the Glenelg ferry yesterday. Another fabulous long day out.
 
Some practicalities that are worth mentioning.

The theory about the central locking being essential is confirmed. If you forget to operate it when settling down, the car goes off after about half an hour. This is a right pain, so don't do it. If you do, you have to
  1. Get out of your sleeping bag
  2. Get out of bed
  3. Lean forward and operate the driver's door handle*
  4. Put on your sandals
  5. Get out of the car
  6. Get back in via the driver's door and sit in the driver's seat
  7. The car will come back on, so check settings and if necessary cancel the auto-lights again
  8. Get out of the car
  9. Get back in via the rear door
  10. Take off your sandals
  11. REMEMBER TO LEAN FORWARD AND OPERATE THE CENTRAL LOCKING THIS TIME
  12. Get back into your sleeping bag and into bed
  13. Get back to sleep - if you can.
* This is the hard bit to remember. The central locking is still active, and if you forget you won't be able to open the driver's door from the outside. Also, pulling the door handle is enough, you don't have to do what I did the first time - yes I did this twice - and lean all the way forward to disengage the central locking.

It is quite hard to reach the button for the central locking from the back of the car. I mentioned this to @Archev when we met at Applecross and he mentioned something about a stick. I was actually carrying a collapsible ski pole to use as a hiking stick. Just shoot me now. Makes it much easier. [ETA: there's a button on the short-cut menu on the infotainment screen that does it. Just shoot me now.]

There's quite a lot of the wisdom of crowds about all this, with various people contributing different ideas and insights to the whole.
 
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There’s certainly a lot of variation in prices verses facilities. £12 at Kilchoan, Applecross and Fidden (at Fionnphort near Iona) were all excellent. I tried one near Eilean Donan and with a straight face the guy said £39. ? I left it for some other weary traveller more used to the golden toilets they obviously have fitted.
I’ve posted elsewhere about my 14 hour 415 mile trip yesterday to cross the Glenelg ferry yesterday. Another fabulous long day out.

Well, you know, if they actually have golden toilets then maybe there's a justification. I think I saw £17 on the main Clachtoll camp site web site, though I don't know what the facilities are like there. Presumably OK as they seem to be fully booked a lot. But £20 for a parking space and a water tap is basically taking the piss.

That place in Durness is fantastic, I'd recommend it to anyone any time. I have actually been there before, when I did the 250-mile pony ride. We had a rest day in Durness and I had dirty clothes, so I snuck into the camp site and used one of the the coin-operated washing machines. I didn't have any washing powder but the clothes came out pretty clean anyway. I remember sitting there writing postcards hoping that nobody was going to come and ask me what the hell I was doing, as there was a sign - still there - saying "the facilities on this site are for the use of users of the site only". I wasn't rumbled, fortunately.
 
Some practicalities that are worth mentioning.

The theory about the central locking being essential is confirmed. If you forget to operate it when settling down, the car goes off after about half an hour. This is a right pain, so don't do it. If you do, you have to
  1. Get out of your sleeping bag
  2. Get out of bed
  3. Lean forward and operate the driver's door handle*
  4. Put on your sandals
  5. Get out of the car
  6. Get back in via the driver's door and sit in the driver's seat
  7. The car will come back on, so check settings and if necessary cancel the auto-lights again
  8. Get out of the car
  9. Get back in via the rear door
  10. Take off your sandals
  11. REMEMBER TO LEAN FORWARD AND OPERATE THE CENTRAL LOCKING THIS TIME
  12. Get back into your sleeping bag and into bed
  13. Get back to sleep - if you can.
* This is the hard bit to remember. The central locking is still active, and if you forget you won't be able to open the driver's door from the outside. Also, pulling the door handle is enough, you don't have to do what I did the first time - yes I did this twice - and lean all the way forward to disengage the central locking.

It is quite hard to reach the button for the central locking from the back of the car. I mentioned this to @Archev when we met at Applecross and he mentioned something about a stick. I was actually carrying a collapsible ski pole to use as a hiking stick. Just shoot me now. Makes it much easier.

There's quite a lot of the wisdom of crowds about all this, with various people contributing different ideas and insights to the whole.
I was talking to my Sister in law just tonight ( the one who worries about being run over by these damned silent assassin EVs)
She’s not tech enough for me to send pictures any other way so I printed a few and posted them.
So she says tonight they were lovely but she hopes I pull the ladder up into the tent before going to sleep ?
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Oh for crying out loud.

The couple behind me at Durness also had a roof tent, although a slightly different design. It had an awning that let them sit under cover with an actual camp fire made of a mesh and tripod they got from Amazon, and charcoal. Very romantic.
 
The awning/ tent does not need to be attached to the car - just near by.

Consider a Vango blow up awning. Can be erected in 10 mins. This post has given me some great ideas for the future. A very enjoyable read.
 
Oh for crying out loud.

The couple behind me at Durness also had a roof tent, although a slightly different design. It had an awning that let them sit under cover with an actual camp fire made of a mesh and tripod they got from Amazon, and charcoal. Very romantic.
I’m seriously thinking about that. OEX (Go Outdoors) actually advertise what they call a hub - an awning to go with my roof tent. I’m quite keen but they are sold out and no idea when they’ll come in. They will email me when available.
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There are quite a few awnings for cars.

Some attach to a roof rack and others to the back of the car. Some are just a roof over your head, others are like proper tents.

The Vango inflatables are good, but pricey, unless you can get them in an end of Summer sale. Go Outdoors sometimes have good discounts.

They often have hugely discounted tents which are customer returns. I got a 400 quid tent about 10 years ago for 50 quid. It was a customer return, so I snapped it up. When I unpacked it at home, it turned out the customer must have taken a dislike to it and returned it as it was all there and had never even been unfolded.

Talking of cheap camping equipment, I saw a billboard once declaring:

"NOW IS THE WINTER OF OUR DISCOUNT TENTS!"

Made me chuckle.
 
There are quite a few awnings for cars.

Some attach to a roof rack and others to the back of the car. Some are just a roof over your head, others are like proper tents.

The Vango inflatables are good, but pricey, unless you can get them in an end of Summer sale. Go Outdoors sometimes have good discounts.

They often have hugely discounted tents which are customer returns. I got a 400 quid tent about 10 years ago for 50 quid. It was a customer return, so I snapped it up. When I unpacked it at home, it turned out the customer must have taken a dislike to it and returned it as it was all there and had never even been unfolded.

Talking of cheap camping equipment, I saw a billboard once declaring:

"NOW IS THE WINTER OF OUR DISCOUNT TENTS!"

Made me chuckle.
Yeah Go Outdoors have examples of most of their tents and stuff assembled and available for inspection. I just missed buying their last display roof tent when I went to buy mines.
 
I had a quick google but I didn't see anything especially suitable. I want something for the side, not the tailgate, and I want three sides as well as a roof. Most of what I saw was either just a roof like a sunshade, of entire complicated tents which were mostly designed to fit over the tailgate. And yes, they were pricey.
 

This is not a blow up one but it gives you an idea. They do not have to be attached to the vehicle.

Ideal for storage and changing - just a thought.
 
I saw this one but it is very pricey...

 
Talking of cheap camping equipment, I saw a billboard once declaring:

"NOW IS THE WINTER OF OUR DISCOUNT TENTS!"

Made me chuckle.
If it came with flashing lights and 1970s dance music system it could have been:

Now is the winter of our disco tent
 
And yet again I'm not certain I managed the <10% to 100% charge successfully. Didn't manage it on the Glyndebourne PodPoints in August for about three different reasons, complete bust. Came home from Glyndebourne low and set it all up, but on the Octopus schedule charge seemed to have been cut after only ten minutes of one slot and charging didn't resume till the next (consecutive) slot started, so not a continuous charge.

Got back low from my first camp-in-the-car foray and didn't get a continuous schedule from Octopus. Should have re-set but didn't, and in the end although the car charged to 100% in one go its balance was cut off after only five or ten minutes.

Got down to 8% yesterday, set it all up, got a continuous schedule, 10.30 till 6.30, what can go wrong? I even set the Zappi to boost for the same time to guard against the charge being cut. Car said it would be done by 5.27 am so plenty time for balancing. I happened to wake up about 5.30 and checked, and the car was balancing, so perfect.

Then in the morning when I checked the Zappi charge record, the car went on balancing for the full hour and was still balancing when the charge was cut at 6.30 am. Never seen it do that before. Not sure I can even count this one as a full long charge either now. I only asked Octopus for 95% as I was sure that would be enough, now I wish I'd asked for 100%.

Now I have to go and clean the car out. I have just been volunteered to drive a posse to a music playing day on Saturday and don't want to be too embarrassed.
 
And yet again I'm not certain I managed the <10% to 100% charge successfully. Didn't manage it on the Glyndebourne PodPoints in August for about three different reasons, complete bust. Came home from Glyndebourne low and set it all up, but on the Octopus schedule charge seemed to have been cut after only ten minutes of one slot and charging didn't resume till the next (consecutive) slot started, so not a continuous charge.

Got back low from my first camp-in-the-car foray and didn't get a continuous schedule from Octopus. Should have re-set but didn't, and in the end although the car charged to 100% in one go its balance was cut off after only five or ten minutes.

Got down to 8% yesterday, set it all up, got a continuous schedule, 10.30 till 6.30, what can go wrong? I even set the Zappi to boost for the same time to guard against the charge being cut. Car said it would be done by 5.27 am so plenty time for balancing. I happened to wake up about 5.30 and checked, and the car was balancing, so perfect.

Then in the morning when I checked the Zappi charge record, the car went on balancing for the full hour and was still balancing when the charge was cut at 6.30 am. Never seen it do that before. Not sure I can even count this one as a full long charge either now. I only asked Octopus for 95% as I was sure that would be enough, now I wish I'd asked for 100%.

Now I have to go and clean the car out. I have just been volunteered to drive a posse to a music playing day on Saturday and don't want to be too embarrassed.
For this situation a bump charge can be the right option, it will continue until the car says stop and you can time it for the low rate period.
 

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