Circular reasoning (Rolfe's solar energy system)

But wouldn't it make sense to fill up any battery available with the cheap overnight?

In which case there would still be no capacity available at noon unless some was used (or exported) a little earlier on.
It gives you capacity to make a guess at what the following day can generate. Using Home Assistant I've programmed it to take in the weather forecast and it then decides how much i import from the grid overnight. In your system you could simply add a second battery, charge both to 50% overnight and then you have 50% of storage available for your otherwise lost generation. Just an idea, probably not cost effective, all depends on pricing of the battery I suppose, battery prices have fallen dramatically over the last year.
 
It gives you capacity to make a guess at what the following day can generate. Using Home Assistant I've programmed it to take in the weather forecast and it then decides how much i import from the grid overnight. In your system you could simply add a second battery, charge both to 50% overnight and then you have 50% of storage available for your otherwise lost generation. Just an idea, probably not cost effective, all depends on pricing of the battery I suppose, battery prices have fallen dramatically over the last year.
I do similar with Home Assistant to virtually eliminate clipping. Luxpower inverters have a mode called 'Charge Last' which switches the priority, after house load, to export rather than charge the batteries. In that mode only the solar generation over the inverter AC capacity goes to the batteries. Basically the batteries are only charged by the small amount of power above the inverter limit, the area of the diagram that is clipped once the batteries reach 100%.
Of course you wouldn't want to leave the inverter in this mode so it's only something you would use when you can automate it, which is where Home Assistant comes in. I use PV predictions for the day, Solcast and ForcastSolar, to determine the level of grid charge of the batteries overnight. During the day an automation determines when Charge Last is required, based on PV predicted remaining for the day, whilst still ensuring the battery SOC rises high enough to provide power in the evening until the cheap overnight starts.
It required a lot of tinkering over the first year, is not perfect, and the financial benefits are dubious with cheap EV tariffs, but it satisfies my mild OCD to maximize solar yield:)
 
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I do similar with Home Assistant to virtually eliminate clipping. Luxpower inverters have a mode called 'Charge Last' which switches the priority, after house load, to export rather than charge the batteries. In that mode only the solar generation over the inverter AC capacity goes to the batteries. Basically the batteries are only charged by the small amount of power above the inverter limit, the area of the diagram that is clipped once the batteries reach 100%.
Of course you wouldn't want to leave the inverter in this mode so it's only something you would use when you can automate it, which is where Home Assistant comes in. I use PV predictions for the day, Solcast and ForcastSolar, to determine the level of grid charge of the batteries overnight. During the day an automation determines when Charge Last is required, based on PV predicted remaining for the day, whilst still ensuring the battery SOC rises high enough to provide power in the evening until the cheap overnight starts.
It required a lot of tinkering over the first year, is not perfect, and the financial benefits are dubious with cheap EV tariffs, but it satisfies my mild OCD to maximize solar yield:)
Everyone needs a hobby. :)
 
This is whooshing right over my head again.
Solutions to improve the efficiency of your system. At times your roof can generate more than you can use/store/export so the system is clipping (kind of like the energy price cap), it hits the maximum on all fronts any more energy is lost. By adding more storage, during these times the energy could be put into the battery for later use / export.
 
Those interested in the issue that we are discussing here may like to watch the latest Gary Does Solar video. This explains the issue that Rolfe has of clipping and losing out on potential generation:

 
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