MG ZS EV Shipping Updates

dundee1961 said:
Hi , im new here . we've ordered an MG ZS EV in August does anyone know any news of cars getting shipped in , The Garage keeps saying no word ? feel like we are getting mucked about . Said it would be middle September now saying possibly end of September . Thank you
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Hi there. I sourced my new MG ZS EV Long range online and bought it from Discounted New Cars at Darwen, Lancashire last May. The car I wanted was readily available, I saved around £5000 and it was delivered.to my home on a trailer from a main dealer. Splendid service from Discounted New Cars. At the moment the minimum discount they offer is over £4000. Give them a try. No, I am not connected with them in any way other than as a highly satisfied customer. Cheers. Graham
 
We have been told by two dealers in Devon that numbers of ZS (and MG 5) are low now because MG is replacing them with a new model. Two said they can't get any more new. One at Drive Weston super Mare only had two new left. Eden Motors and Baylis Gloucester still have a choice of colours. MG are giving £11k off list price of £32k, approximately.
 
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I have seen a 74 plate MG ZS with a “Hybrid” badge on the back. Could this be what they are replacing the all-electric ZS with? Mood around EVs seems to favour hybrids to combat the range anxiety.
 
The December 24 podcast on this forum tells you about the new 25 model. It's going to be a full EV SUV shape, but RWD which wouldn't suit us. So we are glad to have got a ZS. The new models are discussed by an MG employee, so it's worth a watch. Ranges are increasing. The real range of a 115kw 73kwh battery ZS is 230 miles.
 
sinhaEVnoob said:
I have seen a 74 plate MG ZS with a “Hybrid” badge on the back. Could this be what they are replacing the all-electric ZS with? Mood around EVs seems to favour hybrids to combat the range anxiety.
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Yes the latest ZS is the MG ZS Hybrid+ (not quite sure what the "+" denotes).
 
The new model of ZS EV is RWD because it will be based on the new MG4 platform.
This model will be designed from the ground up and built, to be a full BEV.
The original Gen1 ZS EV was MG’s first “toe in the water” approach into a full BEV.
Released to gauge the response in the European market for a full BEV.
So, they simply adapted / electrified the then current ICE version of the original ZS model.
The price point was extremely reasonable by offering temping introductory incentives/ discounts etc.
The model was only available in two trim styles but only a single battery size.
As the demand out stripped the supply, the huge discounts reduced quickly.
Its success then encouraged MG to face lift the original Gen1 model, into the current Gen2 model and it was offered in two battery sizes, standard range and long range.
I expect the new 25/26 model of the ZS EV will obviously be in a SUV style, but is likely to resemble a “pumped up” version of the current MG4 with a higher ground clearance.
A lot of other manufacturers adopt this type of stance now.
Adopt a single running platform that can utilise alternative body shell designs.
This way they can quick switch / satisfy the current demands in the market for a particular model / shape.
The first sign that the current Gen2’s production run was reaching an end in the market, was when MG started producing cars without the full pano / sky roof feature in the car.
The out going Gen2 model is being offered at a great price point right now.
I personally expect dealers to be taking delivery of the new model very shortly and they need to shift stocks of the Gen2 model ASAP.
 
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It's a shame they dropped the pano roof, it's one feature I really like in my ZS.

I had a quick look at the new ZS, and it's a non starter for me, as they have the charging port on the side, rather than the front. Because of the restricted access under my car port, it would be a major problem charging from the side port.

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Truly said:
We have been told by two dealers in Devon that numbers of ZS (and MG 5) are low now because MG is replacing them with a new model. Two said they can't get any more new. One at Drive Weston super Mare only had two new left. Eden Motors and Baylis Gloucester still have a choice of colours. MG are giving £11k off list price of £32k, approximately.
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The LHD models have had their prices slashed a lot here.

Cost for a ZS EV LR Trophy connect prior to December 20 was £30.000 and now they are down to £22.200

I was told that officially they just lowered the price to compete, but unofficially it was to clear a rather large stock of LHD ZS EV's because of the launch of the successor.

Right now the base model is sold out in white and the LR Trophy variant is sold out in black.

We ordered a LR Trophy Connect December 27 and it was delivered within a month.

Lovemyev said:
The new model of ZS EV is RWD because it will be based on the new MG4 platform.
This model will be designed from the ground up and built, to be a full BEV.
The original Gen1 ZS EV was MG’s first “toe in the water” approach into a full BEV.
Released to gauge the response in the European market for a full BEV.
So, they simply adapted / electrified the then current ICE version of the original ZS model.
The price point was extremely reasonable by offering temping introductory incentives/ discounts etc.
The model was only available in two trim styles but only a single battery size.
As the demand out stripped the supply, the huge discounts reduced quickly.
Its success then encouraged MG to face lift the original Gen1 model, into the current Gen2 model and it was offered in two battery sizes, standard range and long range.
I expect the new 25/26 model of the ZS EV will obviously be in a SUV style, but is likely to resemble a “pumped up” version of the current MG4 with a higher ground clearance.
A lot of other manufacturers adopt this type of stance now.
Adopt a single running platform that can utilise alternative body shell designs.
This way they can quick switch / satisfy the current demands in the market for a particular model / shape.
The first sign that the current Gen2’s production run was reaching an end in the market, was when MG started producing cars without the full pano / sky roof feature in the car.
The out going Gen2 model is being offered at a great price point right now.
I personally expect dealers to be taking delivery of the new model very shortly and they need to shift stocks of the Gen2 model ASAP.
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Here one of the key difference between the base "Comfort" trim level and the "Luxury" trim level was always the pano roof.

They seem to have altered the trims on the fly, my take is, this has more to do with availability of parts than anything. For example in the beginning you could have.

Comfort with 1 Phase charger
Comfort with 3 phase charger
Luxury with 3 phase charger

Then they suddenly also had Luxury with 1 phase charger and then they removed the option for 3 phase charger for Comfort trim.

I dont think they ever had a "luxury without pano roof" here and the one we just bought also has it.
 
@Eclectic - I wouldn’t necessarily be looking to change my ZS, but the position of the charge port on the new version would be an issue for me too. Offside would be manageable, but nearside would be a faff to access.
 
Eclectic said:
It's a shame they dropped the pano roof, it's one feature I really like in my ZS.

I had a quick look at the new ZS, and it's a non starter for me, as they have the charging port on the side, rather than the front. Because of the restricted access under my car port, it would be a major problem charging from the side port.

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Is also much, much larger than the nifity city-useful MG ZSEV. No, I do not want yet another large-ish SUV Telsa slaone; there's way too many of these on the roads.
 
I'm not a lover of the new MGS5EV. It's way too big for my needs and I also prefer front wheel drive to rear wheel.
 
profdraper said:
Is also much, much larger than the nifity city-useful MG ZSEV. No, I do not want yet another large-ish SUV Telsa slaone; there's way too many of these on the roads.
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As a comparison of size:

MG ZS EV TrophyMG4 TrophyMGS5 EV Trophy
Length (mm)432342874476
Width (mm)180918361849
Height inc roofbars where fitted (mm)164915041633
Wheelbase258527052730

So it's 6" longer than the ZS EV, and 1.5" wider. It's around 0.5" lower (the roofbars are flush fitting, rather than with gaps under them. The wheelbase has increased by 5.7", which gives much more space internally for passengers (so that's where most of the increase in length has been distributed).

Having driven the car myself yesterday, I have to say I was really really impressed by the jump up in interior space, quality of materials, reduction in NVH (Noise, Vibration, Harshness), and the much improved suspension and ride quality.

My company car is a Hyundai Ioniq5 (I drove it to the training in Gaydon yesterday, so had back-to-back comparison available), which is also RWD and cost £48k.

I would say that the suspension in the MGS5 EV is BETTER than the Ioniq5. It doesn't crash as much over rough roads, and it doesn't lean as much around corners. The grip levels felt to be better in the MGS5 EV compared to the MG4 (I know that doesn't sound right, but believe me, it was really good!).

In Sport mode, the MGS5 EV (240bhp) beats my Ioniq5 (210bhp) for acceleration. You can also set up a "Custom" mode with Eco/Extra Energy Saving settings, which makes the performance more like what you'd be used to in the ZS EV in Eco mode, if that's what you prefer.

I genuinely think it's a really good car, and worthy of a look by anyone in the market for a B-segment crossover vehicle.

I've attached some photos as taken yesterday, and we'll be doing a podcast about the MGS5 EV next week.
 

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Lovemyev said:
No sky roof @Miles Roberts CG ?.
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No, although I believe the forthcoming MGS6 EV (based on the IM LS6, and landing in the UK in July 2025) will have a panoramic roof and AWD... So for those who want more spec, I suspect that might be the one to wait for (albeit a bigger car overall).
 
It is very similar body / interior style to what I expected really.
Shifting to the new pure EV platform, it was fairly obvious it would closely resemble a pumped up MG4.
MG following in similar production direction as the Audi / VW group.
I do remember viewing the VW TRoc for the first time and was asked what I thought by the sales man.
“Well…It’s just a pumped up Golf” he smiled and nodded his head.
One single running platform / skate board that can quickly be interchanged with different body shell designs, to suit the demands in the market makes perfect business sense TBH.
 
Truly said:
The December 24 podcast on this forum tells you about the new 25 model. It's going to be a full EV SUV shape, but RWD which wouldn't suit us. So we are glad to have got a ZS. The new models are discussed by an MG employee, so it's worth a watch. Ranges are increasing. The real range of a 115kw 73kwh battery ZS is 230 miles.
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Over the last 3 yrs my real world range of our 73kWh battery Long Range ZSEV has ranged from 220 miles in the cold and wet/windy weather of winter to a pleasing 305 miles on a nice hot dry sunny day in summer. These are not estimated GOM miles, but actual consumption figures taken after the same long 200 mile journey in winter then summer. I think the est WLTP range of 273 miles on a 15°C day at normal speeds is about right.
 
Lovemyev said:
It is very similar body / interior style to what I expected really.
Shifting to the new pure EV platform, it was fairly obvious it would closely resemble a pumped up MG4.
MG following in similar production direction as the Audi / VW group.
I do remember viewing the VW TRoc for the first time and was asked what I thought by the sales man.
“Well…It’s just a pumped up Golf” he smiled and nodded his head.
One single running platform / skate board that can quickly be interchanged with different body shell designs, to suit the demands in the market makes perfect business sense TBH.
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Yes, the Modular Scalable Platform (as used in the MG4, Cyberster, and MGS5 EV) means that it can readily be configured for different scenarios with minimal cost of development. This in turn gives a lower overall cost in bringing the vehicle to market, and means that pricing can be kept competitive.

I remember the VW Phaeton development cost $1.4 billion, vs sales of just 84,253 over 15 years. So the development cost was around $16.6k per car (not including the actual material/build cost for each vehicle). They never made a profit, even though each car had an RRP of $55-89k.
 

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