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  1. Peter WA

    ZS EV Mk2 51kWh LFP Battery - Not Balancing Massive Cell Deviation

    Unfortunately no. There is no balancing happening at all. The little step down is when charge current drops to 0. Just settling and surface charge dissipating. Leaving the charger connected for several hours after does not make any difference. And unlike some reports from BYD users, the car...
  2. Peter WA

    ZS EV Mk2 51kWh LFP Battery - Not Balancing Massive Cell Deviation

    Sorry for the late reply, I got no notification :-( In the first image you see what I get. I don't get individual cells. I get 12 modules. Each module must be 10 cells. For a total of 120 cells. If I multiply the average cell voltage by 120, I get 409V, which is what the car displays. All ties...
  3. Peter WA

    ZS EV Mk2 51 kWh LFP battery - What is Your Voltage When Full?

    Thank you so much for being so responsive and helpful. If we can't get the BMS software version number to compare, there is no point for me upgrading to the pro version of the app. In that case I just assume my OVMS gives me all there is to see. Regarding cell voltages: even my unbalanced pack...
  4. Peter WA

    ZS EV Mk2 51 kWh LFP battery - What is Your Voltage When Full?

    Sorry, typo, 3.65 of course. Fixing it above. Is the connection profile in that version of car scanner still called "MG MR5EV / Marvel EV/ MG ZS EV Facelift 2022'? Would you be able to check whether you can read out a software version for the BMS? It's in the section called 'ECU Identifiers'...
  5. Peter WA

    ZS EV Mk2 51 kWh LFP battery - What is Your Voltage When Full?

    I've tried using car scanner too just to see, but I don't get any useful info for my car from it. Are you using the paid version or the free one? In the ECU list BMS is one of the tick-boxes, but it is off by default, and when I pick it, no data comes back. Very weird. So we actually can't...
  6. Peter WA

    ZS EV Mk2 51 kWh LFP battery - What is Your Voltage When Full?

    When do you usually check this? Reason I ask: When my car first ticks over to 100%, before (not actually) balancing, the highest cell voltage is 3.65V. Since yours is only 3.35V, something is different. Well, yours is better. Although 3.35V, with no load, would be closer to 98% charged than...
  7. Peter WA

    ZS EV Mk2 51 kWh LFP battery - What is Your Voltage When Full?

    Amazing how close your cell voltages are 3.35 to 3.36V. Interesting to see 99.9% SOC, not 100%, I wonder if your battery did properly balance after charging to full. I can only wish mine was like that too...
  8. Peter WA

    MG4 51kWh LFP Battery Health

    Usually the charge current drops very low when (passive) balancing. Usually into the mA range. That's why it will take a very long time. But instant wattage that needs to dissipate is a lot lower. Should be around 1W per cell that is high. To do a numeric example: let's say my worst cells are...
  9. Peter WA

    MG4 51kWh LFP Battery Health

    You've got the JK Inverter BMS? That's the one I have. It happily talks with my Victron Multiplus II 48/5000 Inverter Charger via CAN bus. I run it in close-loop configuration (BMS is in the driver's seat, Inverter does what it is told with respect to target voltage and current) and have not had...
  10. Peter WA

    ZS EV Mk2 51 kWh LFP battery - What is Your Voltage When Full?

    Assuming your car actually does a balance, a stop in between should not be a problem. It should balance every time it reaches 100%, if the cell voltage difference exceeds whatever threshold MG has programmed. Doesn't matter whether it came from 8% or 91%. Quite likely it should even update...
  11. Peter WA

    MG4 51kWh LFP Battery Health

    I have the same set-up at home (also JK BMS), and yes, it is fantastic. And amazing how quickly it got the cells that well balanced. 2A active balancing is the way to go! Careful though with the screenshot: at that voltage level cell voltages are very close together, even when cells aren't well...
  12. Peter WA

    MG4 51kWh LFP Battery Health

    Good news and bad news. The bad: CATL doesn't sell cells on the open market AFAIK, and wouldn't sell to businesses that do. So these have either fallen off a truck, are recycled from wrecked cars, or plain old fakes. Which then begs the question how accurate the specs are. The good: As to...
  13. Peter WA

    ZS EV Mk2 51 kWh LFP battery - What is Your Voltage When Full?

    And when you then start the car, have a look at the HV battery voltage on the display and let us know. Also note: if the battery is very poorly balanced it might take multiple balancing sessions to get it back to normal. If it actually does balance. I still have my doubts my car does. I can...
  14. Peter WA

    MG4 51kWh LFP Battery Health

    Yes, my car has 51kWh of LFP cells. I'm not saying that the chart shows the actual degradation. It is however what the BMS reports via OBD2. Every single day the car gets turned on the countdown timer continues. I am currently following the instructions I got above: drive until SOC is well...
  15. Peter WA

    ZS EV Mk2 51 kWh LFP battery - What is Your Voltage When Full?

    Regarding your photos: the second one has load on the battery, 5A, that would have dropped the voltage. Also: surface charge will come off quite quickly. So really depends on how soon after the end of a 100% charge one looks. As to worry: not sure that is the right conclusion, maybe I need to...
  16. Peter WA

    MG4 51kWh LFP Battery Health

    That's interesting info. Thanks! I don't often get below 20% before I recharge. Maybe that's what is needed. I'll give it a try. There's just the one single bump up in March 2023. The 'flat' bits are when no data was collected. Away from home, or didn't use the car for a few days. As soon as...
  17. Peter WA

    MG4 51kWh LFP Battery Health

    Maybe that's what MG try to simulate by programming a countdown timer. But trust me: the car can not measure SOH accurately enough to achieve a linear decline every single day the car is turned on. See chart below. Completely linear (with bigger drops only when the car wasn't turned on for a...
  18. Peter WA

    MG4 51kWh LFP Battery Health

    Interesting thread. Maybe I can add some info: I personally mostly have experience with a ZS EV (Mk2 currently), but it is very likely that the 51Ah LFP battery is quite similar to the one in the MG4. My ZS EV is monitored via OVMS. That allows me to track SOH on a daily basis. After almost 2...
  19. Peter WA

    ZS EV Mk2 51 kWh LFP battery - What is Your Voltage When Full?

    Right after a full charge to 100%, when first turning on the car, what HV battery voltage do you get? Please only reply if you have a 51 kWh LFP battery (standard range Mk2 ZS EV). This is what I got this morning, 410V: Background (TL/DR): I am using OVMS to monitor my car. Doing that I...
  20. Peter WA

    ZS EV Mk2 51kWh LFP Battery - Not Balancing Massive Cell Deviation

    Ok, here's an idea to see whether my car is the odd one out. Or whether this is still "normal". Right after a full charge to 100%, when first turning on the car, what voltage does your car report? Please only reply if you have a 51kWh LFP battery (Standard range Mk2 ZS EV).
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