Intelligent Speed Limiters in Cars from 2022

[Deleted member 823]

Hi All,

I'm not sure if I like this idea or not - your car dictating the speed at which you drive based on data received from various sensors, albeit with the option to over-ride it for now. On the one hand it seems sensible (I must be getting old! ?) but on the other hand I hate the authorities impinging on our freedom of choice. You can also bet that the information captured by the car will at some point in the future be expanded and used for other purposes.

Here's the link, it's a bike website but that's irrelevant as far as the article is concerned (there might be adverts too, I dunno, I have blockers on all the time):

Vehicles sold in EU & UK from 2022 to be fitted with automatic speed limiters

Despite Brexit, UK is to adopt the same EU mandated ‘ISA’ speed limiters in new vehicles sold in 2022 onwards. Are motorcycles exempt from this?

www.visordown.com

What do you think?

 

[mj224]

It's inevitable I' afraid. Not too keen on being told what to do, but in the end it is probably good for all for economy and safety.

Speaking as a 70+ year old, I can live with it, but when I was a boy racer, I would have found this hard to accept...

In years to come, the whole concept of personal transport will be up for grabs.....

 

[Alb]

I'd also say it's inevitable but there will always be a workaround.
Don't forget there's a whole new generation of drivers now who want their car to do all of their thinking for them.
I'm still old school and neither need nor want any help in keeping my car between a pair of white lines!

 

[LeoRBK]

In ZS intelligent speed assist needs to be enabled by pushing a stalk. So maybe it will be available as a driver's aid and not switched on all the time.

 

[Deleted member 823]

I understand that initially at least, you can turn it off, but you have to do that each time you start the car. I guess the downside is, in an accident, if you're not at fault you wouldn't have the evidence to back this up (forgot to say I believe the cars will be logging data too ).

 

[Fluffykins]

Yeah. And all that "you must drive on the left" rubbish. Why should I be dictated to what side of the road to drive on. I pay my taxes, I'll drive on my roads any side I want. Freedom.

/Sarc

 

[mj224]

Yeah. And all that "you must drive on the left" rubbish. Why should I be dictated to what side of the road to drive on. I pay my taxes, I'll drive on my roads any side I want. Freedom.

/Sarc

Go for it....)

 

[Fluffykins]

I understand that initially at least, you can turn it off, but you have to do that each time you start the car. I guess the downside is, in an accident, if you're not at fault you wouldn't have the evidence to back this up (forgot to say I believe the cars will be logging data too ).

I think quite a few cars the airbag controller logs what the vehicle is doing in the moments/minutes before a crash. I think it takes a specialist kit to extract the info though.

 

[chowbenter]

I understand that initially at least, you can turn it off, but you have to do that each time you start the car. I guess the downside is, in an accident, if you're not at fault you wouldn't have the evidence to back this up (forgot to say I believe the cars will be logging data too ).

From what I've seen/read the car makers with these ISA (intelligent Speed Assist
) systems are required by the EU to report back to them & upload all the data from cars with these ISA (Intelligent Speed Assist) systems as to when the ISA was switched ON or OFF or if drivers are paying attention to the ISA system, which would mean owners of these cars would have to make regular trips to the dealership for data extraction unless they come up with OTA (Over The Air) ability.

 

[Paulie68]

I'm all for it, sick of getting done for speeding at 36 mph in a 30 zone because it's almost impossible to always keep to the speed limit, or thinking I'm in a 40 zone when it's still 30, that sort of thing.

Throttle based override needs to always be available though to get out of situations in emergencies, or complete an overtake if needed and such.

 

[5teep]

Everyone who is sick of getting speeding tickets, raise your right foot. )

 

[Fluffykins]

That's good enough to plagiarise.

 

[mj224]

That's the beauty of Cruise Control. Set it the necessary speed and relax a bit. I know it does not work in busy streets, but then you can't really speed there. The cameras and more likely to be on those tempting bits of open roads which are still within the speed limits...

Spare a thought for Wales, the Assembly are threatening to impose 20mph limits on all urban roads.........:-(

 

[5teep]

That's good enough to plagiarise.

I did ?

 

[5teep]

That's the beauty of Cruise Control. Set it the necessary speed and relax a bit. I know it does not work in busy streets, but then you can't really speed there. The cameras and more likely to be on those tempting bits of open roads which are still within the speed limits...

Spare a thought for Wales, the Assembly are threatening to impose 20mph limits on all urban roads.........:-(

Thankfully the MG5 cruise control works down to 20mph.

 

[Alb]

That's a big bonus compared to a manual gearbox car where the cruise control often drops out if you change gear.

 

[chowbenter]

How would the car differentiate from roadside speed limit signs from the max speed safety stickers on the back of HGV's?