Petrol and diesel vehicle ban brought forward to 2030

[Stuart Wright]

Petrol and diesel vehicle ban brought forward to 2035 2030. (Updated)
Original news: Ban on petrol and diesel vehicles brought forward
Updated news: Ban on new petrol and diesel cars in UK from 2030 under PM's green plan

I’m very happy with this news. The sooner the better.

 

[Portgordon]

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Wow. I'm impressed with how aggressively this is now being pushed. The repercussions of an outright ban are quite mind boggling when you really think about it. Absolutely no (new) petrol or diesels at all the dealerships, only electric/hydrogen which at the moment still feels very much in its infancy.

Albeit it is actually still 15 years away and when you think about where electrics were 15 years ago, that gives a good bit of time for advancements. I believe the average length of ownership these days is about 7 years, so it's roughly 2 cycles away for most. Manufacturers are mostly all already switching across, but scaling back on the production of the fossil models and no longer creating typical engines - feels like we're about to flip over into the future (shame they don't fly yet) ?

I wonder if as we get closer to this we'll start to see all regular service stations offering electric charging points.

Exiting times ?

 

[Noraf142]

Last months numbers are in :
61,5% of all new cars sold in Norway were ev....

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[Chrispydoc]

Thats brilliant news... I believe they have a lot of cheap Hydro-Electricity in Norway...that would help.

 

[Noraf142]

That it does ?
If I take all taxes, and other extras that you have to pay, and do a yearly average, I end up at about 10p/kwh. And still probably have rounded up a bit mutch. Though there's a proposed change in the way they set up how you pay for usage that will change that a bit to the worse for us consumers. Just because the power companies haven't bothered with doing their jobs, and keeping up with maintenance and expansion ?

 

[chowbenter]

Now brought forward to 2030 & I've just reading today that the upcoming Euro Cat 7 emissions standard could de facto ban cars with internal combustion engines as early as 2025 VDA worried about the Euro 7 emissions standard - electrive.com

 

[Paddywack41]

I am no expert in these things but with a ban coming in 2030 (and i assume the EU won't be far behind) that it seems logical for most manufacturers to stop production 3 or 4 years before that. They won't want lots of stock of ICE vehicles (although there may be demand as people try to beat the ban) and probably more importantly they will be wanting to repurpose there existing manufacturing facilities to cope with productions of EVs.

 

[chowbenter]

I am no expert in these things but with a ban coming in 2030 (and i assume the EU won't be far behind) that it seems logical for most manufacturers to stop production 3 or 4 years before that. They won't want lots of stock of ICE vehicles (although there may be demand as people try to beat the ban) and probably more importantly they will be wanting to repurpose there existing manufacturing facilities to cope with productions of EVs.

There's already talk of the government considering bringing the ban of the sale of ICE vehicles ahead of 2030. Government considering limiting sale of ICE cars ahead of 2030

What price trade in values of ICE vehicles in five years time! And also who will want an old diesel trade in car? Surely they will have to bring in some sort of scrappage scheme. I was reading another piece in fleet news about the record number of MOT emission failures in 2020, 1.3 million cars failed the emission test last year mostly diesel cars. Vehicles fail MOT in record numbers due to emissions

 

[Cocijo]

Hopefully we’ll be out of lockdown by then ?

 

[chowbenter]

Anyone else notice the big jump in petrol/diesel prices lately? I saw that our local BP garage prices rose sharply from the other week when I went past there. Confirmed with what I've read today. Diesel pump prices rise as Chancellor mulls fuel duty hike