Which plug is fitted to the supplied charging lead?

[Douglas S]

My wife's MG5 Motability car came without a charging lead, although it did have a granny charger in the boot. MG is supplying a new cable as all MG electrics should have one with agreement between MG and Motability. Does anyone know what connection plugs are on each end of the lead, i.e. Type 2 on one end and CCS combo on the other or are they both Type 2.

 

[johnb80]

You need a type 2 at each end for destination chargers, CCS combo are tethered leads on rapid chargers.

 

[Douglas S]

Thanks That helps a lot.

You need a type 2 at each end for destination chargers, CCS combo are tethered leads on rapid chargers.

Thanks that helps a lot

 

[Jomarkh]

Hi, have you got a 7kW EVSE (home charge point) or are you going to use the supplied granny unit?

 

[Douglas S]

YES getting the Ohme charger fitted on Thursday

 

[johnb80]

YES getting the Ohme charger fitted on Thursday

Good choice, going on intelligent Octopus GO?

 

[Douglas S]

Good choice, going on intelligent Octopus GO?

Not sure about cheaper night time rate as it is more expensive during daytime and my charging times at night are only likely to be less that 6 hours monthly because of low mileage. I think it will be cheaper to stay on standard rate for 24 hours than change to intelligent Octopus GO. Any thoughts on this please?

 

[Gadget Geek]

You would need to look at past electricity bills. The average ratio of night to day rates is normally given as 60% to 40% respectively. Obviously, if you charge an EV, put heavy load devices on overnight, then this can be 30%/70%, or even 20%/80%.

Take the number of kWh used on your previous bills and multiply two thirds of those kWh by the night time rate,
and one third by the day time rate. Add them together and see if it's cheaper than what is stated on the actual bill.

 

[johnb80]

Not sure about cheaper night time rate as it is more expensive during daytime and my charging times at night are only likely to be less that 6 hours monthly because of low mileage. I think it will be cheaper to stay on standard rate for 24 hours than change to intelligent Octopus GO. Any thoughts on this please?

It really depends on how much more the daytime costs are compared to a single rate tariff and if you can move some of your load (dishwasher, washing machine, immersion heater, swimming pool etc) to off peak hours.

 

[fnegroni]

I recently switched to octopus Go. Before making the switch I downloaded my half hourly usage from octopus, and looked at the electricity I use at night already and then I looked at how much I charge.
I thought I would start saving if I charged more than 50 kWh a month. Which I do.
Except In terms of convenience and usage pattern, it would only make sense if I had a 7kW charger, which I don’t. And I therefore switched back to flexible Octopus.
Installing a 7kW charger does not financially make sense right now and from the research I’ve done, adds nothing to the value of the house if I were to sell in the next couple years.

They day rates are coming down further from 1st July.
Rates per kWh:
Flexible octopus now: 24.66p
Octopus Go: 27.27 daytime, 9p 12.30am to 4.30am
Flexible Octopus from 1 July: 22.49p

 

[Gomev]

I recently switched to octopus Go. Before making the switch I downloaded my half hourly usage from octopus, and looked at the electricity I use at night already and then I looked at how much I charge.
I thought I would start saving if I charged more than 50 kWh a month. Which I do.
Except In terms of convenience and usage pattern, it would only make sense if I had a 7kW charger, which I don’t. And I therefore switched back to flexible Octopus.
Installing a 7kW charger does not financially make sense right now and from the research I’ve done, adds nothing to the value of the house if I were to sell in the next couple years.

They day rates are coming down further from 1st July.
Rates per kWh:
Flexible octopus now: 24.66p

Not sure about cheaper night time rate as it is more expensive during daytime and my charging times at night are only likely to be less that 6 hours monthly because of low mileage. I think it will be cheaper to stay on standard rate for 24 hours than change to intelligent Octopus GO. Any thoughts on this please?

9p 12.30am to 4.30am
Flexible Octopus from 1 July: 22.49p

Don't forget the day rates like your standing charge depend on your region. My day rate on Go is 25.83p.

Not sure about cheaper night time rate as it is more expensive during daytime and my charging times at night are only likely to be less that 6 hours monthly because of low mileage. I think it will be cheaper to stay on standard rate for 24 hours than change to intelligent Octopus GO. Any thoughts on this please?

Right, I will try and keep this simple.

Firstly I don't know how much you charge your car, or how much you use daily at home excluding charging the car, so I cannot work out anything specific for you.
However what I can do with a couple of assumptions is demonstrate a break even point to show whether a time of day tariff such as Octopus Go is worth switching to.

First the assumptions. (these are current and will change on July 1st but OK for comparison now)

1) Your normal all day rate is 24p
2) Octopus Go (not intelligent) rate is 26p day and 9p night.
3) You make 1 overnight 4hr charge, say 28kWh which gives also say 100 miles range.

I'm not going to show the workings (so no extra marks for that) but the break even point for this scenario is....

Stay with all day rate:
28kWh of car charging.
17kWh of household usage
45kWh at 24p = £10.80

Change to Go rates
28kWh at 9p = £2.52 of car charging.
32 kWh at 26p - £8.32 of household usage .
Total £10.84

This is based on doing 1 car charge for 4 hours and demonstrates how much household usage you would have to use for the same cost on each tariff.

In this example, with the assumptions on price etc. if you use more than 32kWh household between car charges (driving 100 miles) it would be cheaper to stay on an all day tariff, or if you use less then switching is better.

I hope this helps. It is a bit general but is a demonstration/estimate. If anyone spots any flaws/errors please say.