AMT Secret to Smooth transmission

I just came from testing my mg hs thorpy dct 2023 with settings AMT and EU-V. I must say I really does not expect this much change. The driving experience is so smooth now, no lag on throttle. I am sad I drove this car 10k km with old settings. Happy to discover here. Greetings from Türkiye.
 
This morning I read this thread and I didn't even hesitate and went outside to change it and took a test drive. When in AMT mode , I know that the gearbox stutters a little bit when searching for it's first couple of shifts, and you can really feel the changes from shifting up and down on the highway. Now I tested it on a cold engine on AMT setting. It's just ALL gone , this finally feels like a DCT transmission!!
Thank you !

I saw this in the engineering menu before , but I didn't think about changing it and testing it.

Wish I found this before I drove 49k km with it.
 
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I made the changes to my HS PHEV Essence in Aust, my car is 8 months old, i did not have page 8 so was unable to change the emissions settings. I have noticed a light increase in fuel consumption, but it is a lot smoother through the changes. John is the Page 8 only for the Euro version or non PHEV.
 
I have now done around 3500 miles since changing to AMT. Overall my fuel consumption has got slightly worse but when the gearbox is behaving, it is much smoother. However issues with gearbox lag have never gone away at low speeds - it can’t decide 1st or 2nd at give way junctions and over the last week it seems to have started selecting random gears when accelerating and moments of no apparent gear at all. Car is driven petrol/electric generated by regen due to inability to charge. Dealer says lag is because the battery level is 0% but as the battery range is only 30 miles and I drive usually between 40 & 60 miles per day, that makes the car unfit for purpose so is absolute nonsense. After driving the courtesy car for the day, I had forgotten what driving an ordinary car is like and how much I am having to accommodate all the shortcomings.
Does anyone else have this issue at low speed? It’s at around 6-9mph and is just like the 50mph lag (which it does as well)
 
Thanks no lag any more after changing to ATM and MODE 1 ? the car is much smoother and drives a lot of faster ???

Hope it will not damage anything but I bought the car 1 month ago and I wanted to send it back …

John Smith said:
It's very important NOT to have the engine running when you are in the engineering mode! You are basically telling the ECU to do a mini remap and it will override your command if the engine is running or engaged.
All you need to do is follow the video. And yes go to page 8 and see what emissions setting you currently have enabled. ( Probably CN - 6 ) China 6 is factory setting strangely even though Euro 6 is available in the settings. And we are in Europe ... However you want to use EU-V (Euro 5 ) !!
You will instantly notice the completely superior driving experience.
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Hi i drive a Mg Phev EHS and dont find page 8
 
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These are my findings so far:

car: EHS facelift

default configuration behavior with kickoff:
  • good acceleration till 80 km/h (more or less)
  • it changes the gear to soon, deceleration
  • it doesn't keep the gear long
  • it changes the gear, again too soon
  • no acceleration
  • than the ICE goes to the right RPM and it start to accelerate again

configuration: AMT, Mode 1, EU-V:
  • good acceleration till 80 km/h (more or less)
  • it changes the gear a bit later, more or less it accelerates a bit, or stands still, but anyway doesn't decelerate (in my opinion for the lack of support from the electric motor)
  • it keeps the gear for a longer period of time
  • it changes the gear at the right RPM and provides a good acceleration again
So we have an improvement somehow but surely we still have a problem with the EHS.
 
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Ismael said:
Depends on the software version. Taping on the 'E' is for the old one, in the new one is not necessary. Check on YouTube, there are videos for both versions.
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Ismael,
What is your update on: AMT + Mode 1 + EU-V?

nirnaeth said:
I just came from testing my mg hs thorpy dct 2023 with settings AMT and EU-V. I must say I really does not expect this much change. The driving experience is so smooth now, no lag on throttle. I am sad I drove this car 10k km with old settings. Happy to discover here. Greetings from Türkiye.
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Hi. Have you tried AMT + EU-V and driving mode 1?
Any insight on this?
 
Yesterday, I have changed the configuration of my MH HS Luxury (so named in Italy, would be Trophy in the UK or elsewhere), automatic, petrol with the following settings:

Gearbox type: AMT
Driving mode: Mode 1
Emissions: EU-V

I confirm that the gear transmission is so much better and it feels much more powerful.

Can't say anything about fuel consumption just yet. It suffices to say that, for the very short distance I drive from home to work from time to time (I usually walk), before the switch it always indicated 19.9l/100km, yesterday it was 14.9l/100km.
 
Thanks for sharing this information, meanwhile I wonder if that will have any effect on the gear life or will affect the warranty on the car since it is by default on the AT mode not one the AMT mode from the factory
 
seko said:
Thanks for sharing this information, meanwhile I wonder if that will have any effect on the gear life or will affect the warranty on the car since it is by default on the AT mode not one the AMT mode from the factory
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A friend of mine raised the same concerns. In my opinion, the settings that everybody here is switching to are the "native" setting of the motor. Becuase of new requirements, MG tweak the motor electronically to meet them. But these new settings, as you call them as default, were not orginally design for the motor. In other words, MG has not made new motors for the new requirements, but tweak the existing one to meet the new requirements.

I have done several trips by now. Here is my fidning. I manage to get even 6.3l/100km. But it is ruined by having motor standing still for 10 to 20 minutes, rasing the average consumption to 7.3l/100km.

Will do a long trip of 2000km next week. will let you guys know the result.
 
yeancek said:
A friend of mine raised the same concerns. In my opinion, the settings that everybody here is switching to are the "native" setting of the motor. Becuase of new requirements, MG tweak the motor electronically to meet them. But these new settings, as you call them as default, were not orginally design for the motor. In other words, MG has not made new motors for the new requirements, but tweak the existing one to meet the new requirements.
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But if that tweak is made to meet the new requirements why they don't activate it on the system for new cars, I bought new car MG ehs 2023 and after checking all these information I found that MG didn't manage to do it by default, I don't know why, I think they have concerns regarding that for the lifetime of the gearbox as this lag is a kind of protection of the gear as I figured out in some youtube videos
 
seko said:
But if that tweak is made to meet the new requirements why they don't activate it on the system for new cars, I bought new car MG ehs 2023 and after checking all these information I found that MG didn't manage to do it by default, I don't know why, I think they have concerns regarding that for the lifetime of the gearbox as this lag is a kind of protection of the gear as I figured out in some youtube videos
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The tweak I mentioned means the settings of new cars, which are:

Gearbox mode: AT
Drive mode: None
Emissions: CN-VI

These settings are default in new cars, like mine. I just got it two months ago.

whereas ---------------

The settings thousands of users have changed into, and in my opinion native to the motor, are:

Gearbox mode: AMT
Drive mode: Mode 1
Emissions: EU-V

So, what I am saying is that MG, by introducing a new facelift in 2023 and other cosmetic improvements to the car, including a new UI for the infotainment system, the motor remains the same.

Meanwhile, legal requirements for new cars in many countries, on the ground of environmental protection, etc., have changed. So, instead of putting a new motor, especially designed for the new requirements, MG simply tweaked the motor electronically to meet them.
BUT, these settings, i.e. the first ones mentioned above, are NOT NATIVE to the motor, resulting in lag and lack of power.

If my speculation is correct, then the second set of settings are the ones for which the motor was original designed. If so, then, those settings would NOT harm the motor, because they are NATIVE to the motor.

I hope I have made myself clearer this time.
 
yeancek said:
The tweak I mentioned means the settings of new cars, which are:

Gearbox mode: AT
Drive mode: None
Emissions: CN-VI

These settings are default in new cars, like mine. I just got it two months ago.

whereas ---------------

The settings thousands of users have changed into, and in my opinion native to the motor, are:

Gearbox mode: AMT
Drive mode: Mode 1
Emissions: EU-V

So, what I am saying is that MG, by introducing a new facelift in 2023 and other cosmetic improvements to the car, including a new UI for the infotainment system, the motor remains the same.

Meanwhile, legal requirements for new cars in many countries, on the ground of environmental protection, etc., have changed. So, instead of putting a new motor, especially designed for the new requirements, MG simply tweaked the motor electronically to meet them.
BUT, these settings, i.e. the first ones mentioned above, are NOT NATIVE to the motor, resulting in lag and lack of power.

If my speculation is correct, then the second set of settings are the ones for which the motor was original designed. If so, then, those settings would NOT harm the motor, because they are NATIVE to the motor.

I hope I have made myself clearer this time.
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Thanks for your reply and for your clarification I will do test for both settings and see the difference on my car, meanwhile do we have anyone from MG in that forum that can give us the best settings from manufacturer prospective?
 
John Smith said:
To solve all of your problems regarding a complete lack of coordination between the transmission ICE and lag in EV mode.
Simply search AMT Mode for MG HS and follow the instructions to change the setting in Engineering mode in the infotainment system. It has worked for over 4000 owners who have messaged me directly since I first mentioned this on forums in January 2024.

John Smith has studied this along with a colleague since launch in 2019.
It solves everything regardless of PHEV / Automatic DCT and even Manual Transmission.

Here's the link to my original comment at the end of this post. Just read what a difference it made to Jto an established member of this forum.

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My first impression with driving my brand new MG plug-in Hybrid in 100% EV mode: The electric drive has a 4 gear transmission systeem which often shifts in a very slow way. The car halts for a moment like someone who cannot find the next gear! In the hybrid mode with 6 extra gears available here...
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I have mg hs trophy but my secret menu don't allow me to made any change. I don't have the OK button so i can't try to switch to AMT. Any idea ?
 
mehdihstrophy said:
I have mg hs trophy but my secret menu don't allow me to made any change. I don't have the OK button so i can't try to switch to AMT. Any idea ?
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Is your engine on? It should not be on.. Try changing the setting, may be the save button or restart button would appear. Your menu is an older one than mine.
 
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