Charging at work

[FrenchGuillaume]

Do you think I can can use this one to charge my car at work, don't think it was mean to be charging EV car, but just in case, and what kind of charging cable do I need?
Thank you for you answers

 

[Jomarkh]

Looks like this maybe three phase as it has a red end.
3p+n+earth gives it away as 3phase.

 

[FrenchGuillaume]

Thanks, I've got an another picture of the bottom plug but can't upload it, it says the pic is to big will try to get an another pic tomorrow

 

[Lovemyev]

Looks like this maybe three phase as it has a red end.
3p+n+earth gives it away as 3phase.

That is for powering a massive supply at 63 Amps !.
I agree, it looks like a three phase supply.
More research required first I think ?.

 

[Petriix]

You can probably get an adapter. OHME do a 32a commando socket cable, so you'd just need something to give you 240v at 32a on a single phase with the right connector.

 

[Petriix]

Something like this:

32A 415v Plug to 32A 230v Socket

 

[Lovemyev]

I assume the OP is considering plugging his “Granny” unit into this high powered unit at work ?.
With 240 volt blue socket, shown in the link, he would also need to convert this down to a standard three pin wall outlet, ideally with a protective RCD trip built into that socket outlet.
Otherwise he is not offering any fuse / trip protection from a blue 240 volt adaptor surly ????.
The RCD trip protecting in that industrial 63 Amp 3 phase outlet, is excessively overrated to offer any protection to the tiny “Granny” unit I think.
Even if you COULD tap off that heavy outlet, down to a clean 240 volts single phase supply, the “Granny” ( and the person using it ) needs some type of protection down stream.
This would have to be totally IP rated if it was subjected to bad weather also.
I am not an electrician, but that heavy 63 Amp outlet, is like using a hammer to crack a nut, when it comes to running the small demand of the “Granny” unit.
I would want to be 110% certain that this was suitable before plugging in both my “Granny” unit and my new car for that matter !.
I am NOT saying it can not done, but you need to be super super careful here before proceeding.
I would exercise extreme caution and enlist the help of an industrial / domestic spark ️ first.

 

[FrenchGuillaume]

I assume the OP is considering plugging his “Granny” unit into this high powered unit at work ?.
With 240 volt blue socket, shown in the link, he would also need to convert this down to a standard three pin wall outlet, ideally with a protective RCD trip built into that socket outlet.
Otherwise he is not offering any fuse / trip protection from a blue 240 volt adaptor surly ????.
The RCD trip protecting in that industrial 63 Amp 3 phase outlet, is excessively overrated to offer any protection to the tiny “Granny” unit I think.
Even if you COULD tap off that heavy outlet, down to a clean 240 volts single phase supply, the “Granny” ( and the person using it ) needs some type of protection down stream.
This would have to be totally IP rated if it was subjected to bad weather also.
I am not an electrician, but that heavy 63 Amp outlet, is like using a hammer to crack a nut, when it comes to running the small demand of the “Granny” unit.
I would want to be 110% certain that this was suitable before plugging in both my “Granny” unit and my new car for that matter !.
I am NOT saying it can not done, but you need to be super super careful here before proceeding.
I would exercise extreme caution and enlist the help of an industrial / domestic spark ️ first.

Thank you but I wasn't going to use my granny cable, that the reason why I wanted some expertise to know which charging cable to buy

 

[FrenchGuillaume]

I assume the OP is considering plugging his “Granny” unit into this high powered unit at work ?.
With 240 volt blue socket, shown in the link, he would also need to convert this down to a standard three pin wall outlet, ideally with a protective RCD trip built into that socket outlet.
Otherwise he is not offering any fuse / trip protection from a blue 240 volt adaptor surly ????.
The RCD trip protecting in that industrial 63 Amp 3 phase outlet, is excessively overrated to offer any protection to the tiny “Granny” unit I think.
Even if you COULD tap off that heavy outlet, down to a clean 240 volts single phase supply, the “Granny” ( and the person using it ) needs some type of protection down stream.
This would have to be totally IP rated if it was subjected to bad weather also.
I am not an electrician, but that heavy 63 Amp outlet, is like using a hammer to crack a nut, when it comes to running the small demand of the “Granny” unit.
I would want to be 110% certain that this was suitable before plugging in both my “Granny” unit and my new car for that matter !.
I am NOT saying it can not done, but you need to be super super careful here before proceeding.
I would exercise extreme caution and enlist the help of an industrial / domestic spark ️ first.

Thank you, that's the reason I asked for expertise because I want to be 110% sure before to do something and I wasn't going to use my granny cable and wanted to know which one to get to use this kind of charging device.

 

[FrenchGuillaume]

Something like this:

32A 415v Plug to 32A 230v Socket

When I look at the spec it said :
Rated IP44
And the one I want to use, it's written IP66, can be seen on the picture
I'm worried that it won't work

 

[Lovemyev]

Thank you, that's the reason I asked for expertise because I want to be 110% sure before to do something and I wasn't going to use my granny cable and wanted to know which one to get to use this kind of charging device.

Can I ask, how did you intend to connect the car to that heavy wall outlet then ?.

 

[FrenchGuillaume]

Can I ask, how did you intend to connect the car to that heavy wall outlet then ?.

I want to buy a charging cable that can stand this kind of power to my car but I have no idea which one for now and need some advice about it

 

[Fluffykins]

You don't plug EVs directly into the mains.

Ever.

Without wishing to appear rude, the questions you are asking suggests you have very little familiarity with electricity.

If you are looking for a portable, 3 phase input, 7kW rated charge cable, this might be appropriate:

3 Phase CEE to Type 2 Portable Charger. 32A, 400V, 22kW. Adjustable 10A, 16A, 20A, 24A, 32A

Naturally, you need to do your own research.

One assumes you would have the express permission of the facility owner, the facility occupant and the bill payer, preferably in writing, to connect to their infrastructure and to consume their power.

 

[FrenchGuillaume]

You don't plug EVs directly into the mains.

Ever.

Without wishing to appear rude, the questions you are asking suggests you have very little familiarity with electricity.

If you are looking for a portable, 3 phase input, 7kW rated charge cable, this might be appropriate:

3 Phase CEE to Type 2 Portable Charger. 32A, 400V, 22kW. Adjustable 10A, 16A, 20A, 24A, 32A

Naturally, you need to do your own research.

One assumes you would have the express permission of the facility owner, the facility occupant and the bill payer, preferably in writing, to connect to their infrastructure and to consume their power.

 

[FrenchGuillaume]

You aren't rude because you're right, I have no knowledge at all, I just thought that a lot of ev fast charger point have got like 50kw or even 150 kw maybe for tesla, but I never wanted to plug my ev dictly to the mains, I was just wondering if I could use this outside plug to charge my ev with a cable charger special for this kind of power, and thank you for the link and yes I should probably ask my boss if I can use it to charge my car.
Thanks

 

[Lovemyev]

I think the OP was hoping it was as simple case of buying a cable, then hooking up to the outlet at work and then the front of charge port on car.
If ONLY it was that simple !.
Because you own a car that needs electric to supply the onboard charger in the car, that ANY electrical outlet is appears fare game to plug the car into.
I can see the theory, but in practice it is not that easy.
Basically there is no “off the shelve” cable that is going to satisfy both ends of this chosen case scenario.
A rapid charger is capable of supplying a high load, that the car CAN handle - Yes.
But the heavy side of a CCS rapid and it’s supply cable to the car is a totally different prospect.
The rapid charger has a lot of internal items that controls the flow / supply and protection to the car.
But high load outlet at work is a totally different situation !.
Sorry ?!.

 

[FrenchGuillaume]

I think the OP was hoping it was as simple case of buying a cable, then hooking up to the outlet at work and then the front of charge port on car.
If ONLY it was that simple !.
Because you own a car that needs electric to supply the onboard charger in the car, that ANY electrical outlet is appears fare game to plug the car into.
I can see the theory, but in practice it is not that easy.
Basically there is no “off the shelve” cable that is going to satisfy both ends of this chosen case scenario.
A rapid charger is capable of supplying a high load, that the car CAN handle - Yes.
But the heavy side of a CCS rapid and it’s supply cable to the car is a totally different prospect.
The rapid charger has a lot of internal items that controls the flow / supply and protection to the car.
But high load outlet at work is a totally different situation !.
Sorry ?!.

 

[FrenchGuillaume]

Thank you for the informations, I wasn't aware of all of this.

 

[Fluffykins]

Thank you for the informations, I wasn't aware of all of this.

If you just hit "Reply" under the post to which you wish to reply, you'll not need to create a separate post for your reply.

 

[FrenchGuillaume]

If you just hit "Reply" under the post to which you wish to reply, you'll not need to create a separate post for your reply.

We don't stop learning thanks