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[Retsiba]

It is a bit odd to say you’re choosing between an i5 and an MG4.
Huge swing in budget.

But what if money isn't his deciding factor?

The MG4 has visual and tech appeal. There might be something else about the i5 that appeals to him as well and he is happy to choose between both.

 

[Gibbo]

Those are two hugely different cars - the Ioniq is about 30% more expensive than the MG and considerably larger.

Yes I agree but I am more interested in the car I like the look of and to drive rather than the price per se. I have driven the bz4x ( not bad ride but a lot of body roll in corners and feels heavy) Ioniq 5 looks great, great range, probably all issues sorted, good space but nothing special to drive, ID4- stodgy, hard riding -bland looking - software issues- I test drove the Mg4 because of its good value, appearance and it was by far of all the other cars the best to drive and most engaging -a real car rather than an appliance !

 

[MG4onOrder]

It is a bit odd to say you’re choosing between an i5 and an MG4.
Huge swing in budget.

I had a top spec Kia EV6 on order for 11 months before cancelling as no build date and have ordered an MG4. Nothing to do with budget, decision purely based on the drive of the car and that I might actually receive the MG4 some time soon!

 

[liberostelios]

So, big decision to make. My orange Trophy is likely to arrive in the next couple of weeks, and I'm not sure I want it.

I mean, I do want it, very much. But I don't want the risk and hassle that potentially goes with it.

Oil leak (maybe), bulging undertray (almost certainly), no scheduled charging (almost certainly), potential seat issues (hopefully not), incorrect temperature sensor (maybe), unable to pre-heat when plugged in (almost certainly), TPMS warnings (maybe), driver fatigue warning (maybe, hopefully the sensor has been removed otherwise almost certainly), etc., etc., etc.

And the ultimate will-it-won't-it worry about being locked in the car despite having the key. I'm not a small guy, and the thought of climbing through the back seats and out the boot fills me with a sense of dread and laughter all at the same time.

My current car needs a service and MOT in January, so delaying will mean unwanted expense and more depreciation as it goes over 4 years old. But I think I'm coming to the conclusion that I should just cancel and wait 6 months to see if/when the issues have been satisfactorily resolved.

Bit of a pointless post really, but just wanted to get it off my chest.

I think you need to consider the fact that a forum is a place where all smaller issues are hugely amplified, because people don't tend to register in a forum just to post "I drove my car today and it was all good". In a sense, in here is a small bubble that makes you feel that there are tons of issues, while in reality the chances of having even one of them is much lower. That, of course, doesn't nullifies the problems, I am just saying that you should keep in mind that the most likely outcome is that you'll get none.

 

[Retsiba]

I think you need to consider the fact that a forum is a place where all smaller issues are hugely amplified, because people don't tend to register in a forum just to post "I drove my car today and it was all good". In a sense, in here is a small bubble that makes you feel that there are tons of issues, while in reality the chances of having even one of them is much lower. That, of course, doesn't nullifies the problems, I am just saying that you should keep in mind that the most likely outcome is that you'll get none.

Can I just check with you if you yourself have had any issues with yours?

 

[liberostelios]

Can I just check with you if you yourself have had any issues with yours?

I haven't had one, yet. I plan on buying one as soon as it becomes available where I live.

 

[Retsiba]

Can I just check with you if you yourself have had any issues with yours?

Ignore that question in terms of it being directed at you specifically as can see in another thread you're asking advice on what spec to go for? However what's it like in Netherlands. Owners reporting issues?

 

[liberostelios]

Ignore that question in terms of it being directed at you specifically as can see in another thread you're asking advice on what spec to go for? However what's it like in Netherlands. Owners reporting issues?

The car isn't available in the Netherlands, yet. I suppose that this can be a good thing, as it means we'll be getting a newer batch with less issues (hopefully). I am really curious to see if that's the case, of course. But given the state of the market, there aren't many other options to go for anyway.

Fwiw, when I talked with MG here they told me that they expect a test drive car to be available and the prices to be known in two weeks (i.e. the first week of December), so hopefully it will start selling soon. I can keep you posted, if interested.

 

[Retsiba]

The car isn't available in the Netherlands, yet. I suppose that this can be a good thing, as it means we'll be getting a newer batch with less issues (hopefully). I am really curious to see if that's the case, of course. But given the state of the market, there aren't many other options to go for anyway.

Fwiw, when I talked with MG here they told me that they expect a test drive car to be available and the prices to be known in two weeks (i.e. the first week of December), so hopefully it will start selling soon. I can keep you posted, if interested.

Ok thanks. Yeah that will be good. Hoping its all good as will give a lot of people the reassurance they are seeking.

 

[Deleted member 10041]

I think you need to consider the fact that a forum is a place where all smaller issues are hugely amplified, because people don't tend to register in a forum just to post "I drove my car today and it was all good". In a sense, in here is a small bubble that makes you feel that there are tons of issues, while in reality the chances of having even one of them is much lower. That, of course, doesn't nullifies the problems, I am just saying that you should keep in mind that the most likely outcome is that you'll get none.

I think for the most part you are correct however the software issues and tray bulges are widespread ( not one or two) and the oil leak has reported in several countries now

 

[Stageshoot]

Its not just MG though, the EV6 was plagued with release faults.

The Cabin Heater did not work for many through the whole first winter, requiring multiple software updates and for the first few batches of cars a complete inverter replacement.

The Cabin Preconditioning didnt work for anyone through the first ft winter,

Battery Preconditioning is only rolling out a fix now 12 months after release.

And loads of other Niggles. Thats a car that starts at £45k now and goes up to £60k

Buying any car now in the first 12 months seems to be leaving you open to pain, but in a few months time all will be good

Take it from someone who changes cars every year, you spend way too much time drinking dealer coffee waiting for fixes.

 

[hequals4]

Yep, I ordered the i3 in July 2013 on the first day it became available and then spent the first year of ownership back and forth with multiple fixes/recalls. By the end of it I could hardly close the logbook folder due to all of the paperwork and BMW actually gave me some compensation due to how bad an experience it had been. Similar story with my model 3.

I've read most of the threads on here and observed a lot of hand wringing but I haven't seen anything yet that is making me come close to cancelling my MG4 order.

 

[Stageshoot]

Yep, I ordered the i3 in July 2013 on the first day it became available and then spent the first year of ownership back and forth with multiple fixes/recalls. By the end of it I could hardly close the logbook folder due to all of the paperwork and BMW actually gave me some compensation due to how bad an experience it had been. Similar story with my model 3.

I've read most of the threads on here and observed a lot of hand wringing but I haven't seen anything yet that is making me come close to cancelling my MG4 order.

Yep my i3 blew its drive motor after 500 miles, once replaced brilliant car, more smiles from that than virtually any car I have owned.

Model 3 was like buying a Ferrero Rocher and unwrapping the pretty paper to find a Malteser inside.

MG4 is just a well built value for money set of wheels, as long as any early owner quirks get sorted by the service network without faff I dont see any problem.

 

[4ND]

I think you need to consider the fact that a forum is a place where all smaller issues are hugely amplified, because people don't tend to register in a forum just to post "I drove my car today and it was all good". In a sense, in here is a small bubble that makes you feel that there are tons of issues, while in reality the chances of having even one of them is much lower. That, of course, doesn't nullifies the problems, I am just saying that you should keep in mind that the most likely outcome is that you'll get none.

In many of these cases though, many forum members were on here BEFORE they got their MG4, so it's not so much a case of joining just to report problems. And forums can indicate a much larger issue- if lots of forum members repeat a common issue, it's probably a lot more widespread. Is it really just forum members who got the under tray bulge? If all non forum MG4 owners went out and looked under their car, are they really all as dry as the desert? That person out their now banging on the windows in a panic as her MG4 likes her so much it's kidnapped her, locking her in won't let her out of her car, is she on the forum? Meaning that just as those non-members don't join to go "I drove my car today and it was all good", they also generally don't join to say they've problems either. People don't generally join forums period.

 

[BugEyed]

as long as any early owner quirks get sorted by the service network without faff I dont see any problem.

And that's key. Let's hope that MG steps up to the plate with the MG4. ? VW comprehensively failed some early owners of the ID.3, but a lot of others had an experience that was acceptable to them

 

[thestig84]

In many of these cases though, many forum members were on here BEFORE they got their MG4, so it's not so much a case of joining just to report problems. And forums can indicate a much larger issue- if lots of forum members repeat a common issue, it's probably a lot more widespread. Is it really just forum members who got the under tray bulge? If all non forum MG4 owners went out and looked under their car, are they really all as dry as the desert? That person out their now banging on the windows in a panic as her MG4 likes her so much it's kidnapped her and won't let her out of her car, is she on the forum? Meaning that just as those non-members don't join to go "I drove my car today and it was all good", they also generally don't join to say they've problems either. People don't generally join forums period.

I am afraid I side on the few comments believing the 4 to not be in the disastrous state that is painted on here. It feels like sadly the few with issues are understandably venting and others with similar issues are relieved to be able to join in, not being only ones. I mean the above description of faults is rather dramatic. I wont breakdown each one but agree with the few others I have read that its not enough to cancel when its a model in such infancy.

Oh and my later model year i3 has been faultless. Lets hope MG can iron out issues like BMW managed.

 

[4ND]

I am afraid I side on the few comments believing the 4 to not be in the disastrous state that is painted on here. It feels like sadly the few with issues are understandably venting and others with similar issues are relieved to be able to join in, not being only ones. I mean the above description of faults is rather dramatic. I wont breakdown each one but agree with the few others I have read that its not enough to cancel when its a model in such infancy.

Oh and my later model year i3 has been faultless. Lets hope MG can iron out issues like BMW managed.

I agree actually. All of the issues will no doubt be ironed out in time. People have different tolerance thresholds/expectations though, and no can blame someone 1) for cancelling a car when repeated issue after issue seems to be raised- that person might just not think it's worth the risk or hassle, or 2) rejecting as their car spends more time at the dealer than at their home.
Remember too that someone might well be about to pay/paid £26-£32 thousand pounds of their hard earned, or enter(ed) a years long, high APR finance 'deal'.

 

[thestig84]

You are right but I am not forgetting the amount of hard earned money spent.
Let me be an example of adding balance as I am about to pay exactly that 32k on a red Trophy. Selling my i3 plus cash.

We all have heard many stories of premium cars with terrible issues. I am an aircraft engineer and while a poorly fitted bit of plastic is not a great sign of good QC its really not much of an issue at all imo. You should see the warranty issues Airbus or Rolls Royce Aerospace have.

This is a value car in a segment all on its own currently. It has a 7 year warranty!!! Still looking forward to getting mine.

 

[daps]

Hi everyone.

OP: What do you mean "no scheduled charging (almost certainly)"?

I saw a review where one can setup scheduled charging on both the APP and on the vehicle infotainment system. What's the issue?

Thanks.

 

[tsedge]

Hi everyone.

OP: What do you mean "no scheduled charging (almost certainly)"?

I saw a review where one can setup scheduled charging on both the APP and on the vehicle infotainment system. What's the issue?

Thanks.

Help please: scheduled charging with Zappi

I use a friend's Zappi charger a couple of times a week. Using the in-car settings I schedule the Octopus friendly hours. This is preferable to the setting within Zappi as it doesn't interfere their charging. So far, every time I've tried it I've had to fuss around as it keeps starting to charge...

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