5 appears to be a very popular number with vehicle Manufacturers here’s a another one to come the NIO ET5
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Is it? Unless MG offer some good deals next year they are going to price themselves into a competitive area. I wouldn't have even considered an electric car with the new pricing and lack of government grant. The others could easily end up in the same position.it's going to be a tall order to compete with the Chinese on price point
Agreed. And I think we will see the effect of this next year through increased discounts. The Chinese cars will still have to stand out on price to get their foot in the door. I am not convinced MG has come far enough to be increasing their prices so significantly. Next year will certainly be an interesting one for all brands.The government grant is a bit of a red herring though.
That's why I'm thinking of holding off a ZS Trophy for the time being. Suddenly doesn't seem to be a competitive option now.Agreed. And I think we will see the effect of this next year through increased discounts. The Chinese cars will still have to stand out on price to get their foot in the door. I am not convinced MG has come far enough to be increasing their prices so significantly. Next year will certainly be an interesting one for all brands.
I agree, I test drove a few EVs and as a low mileage user I find it had to part with £40k to £50k, after driving the ZS and with discounts etc under 30k no brainer, but now with no Gov grant on the Trophy I think MG will struggle to sell, I also would have looked elsewhere, still might be as not heard from dealer I ordered Dec 5th, his last word was he had not applied for the grant as he never had a eta for car, as I replied that's not my problem ?China aren't stupid. You can't win wars with no money, hence why they don't get involved yet, but when they do god help us, we won't stand a chance.
As for cars, MG won't survive in the UK unless they remain much cheaper than other well know brands. Most people stick to what they know unfortunately.
Also previously there weren't many EV's around so they could charge a premium and MG did well out of this as they were cheap so got peoples attention. But now with the new ZS they aren't, and next year they're going to have to drop their prices because people will pay another 5k or so for other brands. I only went for MG because of the affinity deals and got grants.
I agree - Tesla’s USP is their technology integration such that charging seems effortless - the amount of planing needed for this journey (or any journey needing 1+ charge) in other brands becomes a challenge - this is where all other brands need to catch up.For a new kid to be successful he needs to sing a better song or do a better dance or both. None of us would be buying MGs if they cost the same as a Kia, Hyundai etc. I am in a MG because it offers more for less.
It is good for legacy manufacturers to get little frights from time to time. It keeps the market fresh and moving. However, correct me if I am wrong, I don’t think NIO is set to come to the UK yet. Matter of time perhaps. I don’t think Tesla will be sweating much as they are the market and innovation leaders, yes they have problems but their products and infra structure just works without any hassle. Unless they drop the ball, they will have a good market share.
I agree - Tesla’s USP is their technology integration such that charging seems effortless - the amount of planing needed for this journey (or any journey needing 1+ charge) in other brands becomes a challenge - this is where all other brands need to catch up.
Totally - but being dynamically autorouted to an available charger based on actual usage of the car rather than pre-planning using ZapMap or ABRP (or even paying subscription and getting ODBII adapter to sort of achieve this) makes long journeys a much simpler prospect.Comes down to the individual's use case.
How many times is James going to be doing that sort of journey?
Struck me that if he needed coffee to stay awake then he shouldn't have been driving tbh.
I think it’s going to be vital for Tesla to open up quieter sites for other EVs first and keep the saturated sites closed to their own cars only until additional investment can be made. If they open every site to every EV, I suspect they’ll destroy the reason people are willing to pay the premium.The fun will start for Tesla drivers when Tesla opens up the supercharger network to other EVs. They won't have the exclusivity they enjoy now and could find themselves routed to charger hub full all types of EV queueing to get a charge.
Although I agree, I somehow think that when Tesla start to open up their charging stations to other EV’s it will be a slow drip feed thing.The fun will start for Tesla drivers when Tesla opens up the supercharger network to other EVs. They won't have the exclusivity they enjoy now and could find themselves routed to charger hub full all types of EV queueing to get a charge.
It’s a model similar to Apple - whether you love or hate these companies, there is no denying that owning the entire ecosystem (when implemented properly) allows a level of integration and optimisation which isn’t available to third party companies.Although I agree, I somehow think that when Tesla start to open up their charging stations to other EV’s it will be a slow drip feed thing.
I just can’t see them opening every charger across the country simultaneously somehow ?.
Their onboard planning / routing system is the best there is also in my mind.
Oh ….. I don’t own a Tesla by the way.
They make EV’s and a charging infrastructure to support them, nobody else does this !.