And yet more to come watch out Tesla

[Deleted member 7316]

I think Zap-Map uses feedback from users to log points being down. I get the impression it’s not from the system operator. In fact I don’t think even they know in real time when they fail which is a major difference from Tesla.

Tesla polls their terminals and can avoid pointing drivers to them and remotely reset them or send an engineer if required. The net result is they have a very high uptime. Any car manufacturer would need that for a tie in to be effective.

 

[Gomev]

I think Zap-Map uses feedback from users to log points being down. I get the impression it’s not from the system operator. In fact I don’t think even they know in real time when they fail which is a major difference from Tesla.

Tesla polls their terminals and can avoid pointing drivers to them and remotely reset them or send an engineer if required. The net result is they have a very high uptime. Any car manufacturer would need that for a tie in to be effective.

It does use feedback but also claims to have live data. In my experience I find the reliability of this live data to be dubious.

From their website...

What coverage does Zap-Map have?​

With 95%+ of public charge points mapped and around 70% of charge points showing live status data, Zap-Map provides EV drivers with peace of mind and the confidence to drive any length of journey in their EV.

 

[Deleted member 7316]

That’s my point, they may get a feed from the operator but that doesn’t mean the operator is up to date. It would take a link in by Ford for example that would require the data to be accurate and the contract would include performance guarantees.

 

[biffo]

That’s my point, they may get a feed from the operator but that doesn’t mean the operator is up to date. It would take a link in by Ford for example that would require the data to be accurate and the contract would include performance guarantees.

It really needs an independent gateway that manages all the data and provides access - in the same way that all banks use a payment gateway for transactions. When a single (or group of) manufacturers own the system - then it ends up like IONITY where non-members are discourage from using. This would all only be possible through regulation such that the performance is governed by someone with power to impose fines, etc to network operators and users (manufacturers).

 

[Deleted member 7755]

Is it? Unless MG offer some good deals next year they are going to price themselves into a competitive area. I wouldn't have even considered an electric car with the new pricing and lack of government grant. The others could easily end up in the same position.

IMO the real winner will be the company that cracks the battery price issue.

mg is Chinese's so dont worry about the mg bevs