Considering move from Tesla SR+

[SteeveeLeevee]

I have a Tesla model 3 SR+ coming up to 3 years old 15k miles, average over 15k is 240Wh per mile or 4+ miles per kWh.
I am considering a Trophy connect, the question is what miles per kWh are ZS Long range achieving. I don't race around just general mixed driving and also what range does the long range achieve.

Thanks
Look forward to all info.

Steve

 

[Alb]

4+ in the Summer is not difficult but it can be a stretch in the cold weather.

 

[Gadget Geek]

I have a Tesla model 3 SR+ coming up to 3 years old 15k miles, average over 15k is 240Wh per mile or 4+ miles per kWh.
I am considering a Trophy connect, the question is what miles per kWh are ZS Long range achieving. I don't race around just general mixed driving and also what range does the long range achieve.

Thanks
Look forward to all info.

Steve

Bjorn Nyland had a MK1 ZS in Thailand which he did his usual tests on. You could try looking at those videos, they'll give an accurate consumption.



267 Wh/km on the 1,000km challenge.

 

[Lovemyev]

I am just trying to comprehend and am struggling with the whole concept of switching from a Tesla to a ZS EV to be totally honest Steve ??????.
Two completely different beasts in SO many different ways really.
Wow ......... where do you even start with this one.
Do you use the Tesla super charger network much ?.
Tesla owners can find it difficult understanding why other EV owners struggle to use the non Tesla units ?.
The Tesla units just WORK, first time every time, not so easy on the third party units sorry to say.
Efficiency of the ZS EV is going to be down on the Tesla because it's less aerodynamic just for a start.
LONG wait times on the LR connect models also Steve.
You have been a bit spoilt really with the Tesla mate !.
Hard act to follow I think.
I would strongly suggest you test drive a ZS EV before you go any further.
Don't get me wrong here, it's not that its a bad car - I have owned two now.
But it will be a LOT different to your present car for sure.
One member has both a Tesla and a ZS EV in the same family.
He will be able to give you a better view point across both cars.

 

[sgt4hed]

I have a Tesla model 3 SR+ coming up to 3 years old 15k miles, average over 15k is 240Wh per mile or 4+ miles per kWh.
I am considering a Trophy connect, the question is what miles per kWh are ZS Long range achieving. I don't race around just general mixed driving and also what range does the long range achieve.

Thanks
Look forward to all info.

Steve

I am currently averaging 4.2 in my ZS, dips just below 4 if im on the motorway and of course the A/C takes a bit off again.

I did have it up to 5.5 when pottering around town the other day... the car excels at town speeds of up to 30mph

 

[hmadsen]

Does the car actually have a x miles per kw indicator.

Mine has a rather useless "You use XX KWh to drive 100 kilometers"

Also, how do you average 4,2 miles

The LR has a stated range of 273 miles, and a 68 Kwh usable battery.

Basically 68*4,2 = 286 miles, which would indicate that you average a bit more than what the stated range is.

On the motorway, it calculates my usage to 21 kwh per 100 kilometer, which equates to about 330 kilometers.

This is at 70 mph (110 kph) on cruise control and daytime running lights and climate control off, and the temperature was about 12-15c

This is 4 kilometers (2,5 miles per kilowatt) which is quite a far cry from "just under 4"

So...Is there an ever blowing tail wind on the motorway where you drive or is the 4 miles per kilowatt when you hypermile close to a lorry, doing 60

 

[sgt4hed]

Does the car actually have a x miles per kw indicator.

Mine has a rather useless "You use XX KWh to drive 100 kilometers"

Also, how do you average 4,2 miles

The LR has a stated range of 273 miles, and a 68 Kwh usable battery.

Basically 68*4,2 = 286 miles, which would indicate that you average a bit more than what the stated range is.

On the motorway, it calculates my usage to 21 kwh per 100 kilometer, which equates to about 330 kilometers.

This is at 70 mph (110 kph) on cruise control and daytime running lights and climate control off, and the temperature was about 12-15c

This is 4 kilometers (2,5 miles per kilowatt) which is quite a far cry from "just under 4"

So...Is there an ever blowing tail wind on the motorway where you drive or is the 4 miles per kilowatt when you hypermile close to a lorry, doing 60

I don't know what the Danish variant has in terms of different layouts on the dash but in my car if I scroll left it shows me the trip information, both long term and current journey... In mine at the moment I am displaying as 4 miles per KWh and in fairness, given that the car is capable of doing over 300 miles when driving round town (I think MG claim it can do up to 350 miles in urban driving scenarios) 4 miles per KWh is a very reasonable figure.

My car currently (has an interior temperature of 33 degrees... wtf) has 73% battery remaining and based on the current miles per KWh it is estimating 200 miles remaining which doing the math puts the theoretical capacity based on my driving (well the wife as she had it last and is heavy footed) was 273.97 miles. I'll have a check later at what the M/KWh is and report back

 

[N2STY]

Basically 68*4,2 = 286 miles, which would indicate that you average a bit more than what the stated range is.

Remember what is stated is a average more is easy achieved

 

[sgt4hed]

Got to remember, these cars excel at lower speeds, to get greater efficiency at higher speeds they would need to gear it for example with a CVT gearbox

 

[N2STY]

Got to remember, these cars excel at lower speeds, to get greater efficiency at higher speeds they would need to gear it for example with a CVT gearbox

I really think this will be the next leap forward to achieve great mileage with same battery size

 

[sgt4hed]

I really think this will be the next leap forward to achieve great mileage with same battery size

I had a 5 series hybrid before the MG and the electric motor was coupled to the 8 speed automatic gearbox (you could feel the gear changes) and that mean that the tiny electric motor (80ish horsepower) could propel the over 2 ton car to speeds up to 100mph with relative ease . Think what these ZS EVs could achieve if they were coupled to a CVT gearbox out of a Toyta CH-r... they would be so much more efficient at ALL speeds by not needing to spin at 10000 rpm to hit 70mph...

 

[Marc]

I'm on roughly 3.3 miles/kWh with about 100 miles driven so quite aways away from your Tesla efficiency. I would stick with the Tesla unless your really set on getting a new car.

 

[hmadsen]

I have had this car for 2 months and i have never been anywhere close to those stated 440 km WLTP range.

ON my daily commute to and from work, which is about 10 miles each direction i usually drop about 6-8%, and this is a bit of 30 mph city driving and 8 miles of 50 mph country roads.

I am seriously beginning to think there is something wrong with my car, if you all get that much better Miles per kwh figures.

 

[Lovemyev]

I had a 5 series hybrid before the MG and the electric motor was coupled to the 8 speed automatic gearbox (you could feel the gear changes) and that mean that the tiny electric motor (80ish horsepower) could propel the over 2 ton car to speeds up to 100mph with relative ease . Think what these ZS EVs could achieve if they were coupled to a CVT gearbox out of a Toyta CH-r... they would be so much more efficient at ALL speeds by not needing to spin at 10000 rpm to hit 70mph...

It’s a personal thing I know, but I don’t like CVT boxes to be honest.
I had a seven speed DSG box on my previous VW Golf GTE PHEV and it was quick to respond and smooth as silk changing gear.
It was difficult to second guess what gear the car was actually in at times, you had to look down at the dash to be sure.
We have covered almost 3,000 enjoyable miles in our Trophy LR already and I am seeing a regular 4.0 m/kWh.
A good mixture of different types of roads and speeds.
Happy with that to be honest.
The extra range offered by the LR model reduces time spent looking at the remaining range I find now.

 

[sgt4hed]

I'm on roughly 3.3 miles/kWh with about 100 miles driven so quite aways away from your Tesla efficiency. I would stick with the Tesla unless your really set on getting a new car.

I am only about 150 miles in but yeah, seeing a long term average of 4 M/KWh.

It’s a personal thing I know, but I don’t like CVT boxes to be honest.
I had a seven speed DSG box on my previous VW Golf GTE PHEV and it was quick to respond and smooth as silk changing gear.
It was difficult to second guess what gear the car was actually in at times, you had to look down at the dash to be sure.
We have covered almost 3,000 enjoyable miles in our Trophy LR already and I am seeing a regular 4.0 m/kWh.
A good mixture of different types of roads and speeds.
Happy with that to be honest.

The BMW didn't tell you what gear you were in when on electric only, so had to guess based on how many subtle bumps I had felt when it changed or what gear it was in when it flipped over to petrol. A normal gearbox is perfectly doable with an EV, though a CVT would be smooth all of the time and no need for a clutch system or to disengage the motor to "change" gear.

 

[Kithmo]

The city figures are way over exaggerated all my driving is city and I get the WLTP (a bit of everything) figure.

 

[N2STY]

The city figures are way over exaggerated all my driving is city and I get the WLTP (a bit of everything) figure.

It's probably done on 10 to 20 mph max not realistic

 

[sgt4hed]

The city figures are way over exaggerated all my driving is city and I get the WLTP (a bit of everything) figure.

My city driving in eco gets me over 5 miles per KWh, which would be quite close to the 350 estimate from WLTP

 

[Lovemyev]

I am only about 150 miles in but yeah, seeing a long term average of 4 M/KWh.


The BMW didn't tell you what gear you were in when on electric only, so had to guess based on how many subtle bumps I had felt when it changed or what gear it was in when it flipped over to petrol. A normal gearbox is perfectly doable with an EV, though a CVT would be smooth all of the time and no need for a clutch system or to disengage the motor to "change" gear.

The BMW system is not that great or advanced as the VAG system for sure !.

 

[MichaelJHunt]

I am just trying to comprehend and am struggling with the whole concept of switching from a Tesla to a ZS EV to be totally honest Steve ??????.
Two completely different beasts in SO many different ways really.
Wow ......... where do you even start with this one.
Do you use the Tesla super charger network much ?.
Tesla owners can find it difficult understanding why other EV owners struggle to use the non Tesla units ?.
The Tesla units just WORK, first time every time, not so easy on the third party units sorry to say.
Efficiency of the ZS EV is going to be down on the Tesla because it's less aerodynamic just for a start.
LONG wait times on the LR connect models also Steve.
You have been a bit spoilt really with the Tesla mate !.
Hard act to follow I think.
I would strongly suggest you test drive a ZS EV before you go any further.
Don't get me wrong here, it's not that its a bad car - I have owned two now.
But it will be a LOT different to your present car for sure.
One member has both a Tesla and a ZS EV in the same family.
He will be able to give you a better view point across both cars.

Maybe, just maybe, the OP is looking for a more premium build at a much more sensible price?

Tesla is now opening up the Supercharger network, so that USP has gone.

With my ZS EV Trophy Connect I have 7,500 miles of faultless driving and charging, both on my home charger and on Rapid Chargers.

A recent 1,080 miles round trip to Scotland was totally uneventful.