Decision, Decision Decision !

[DBedford]

You are quoting figures for the old Kona not the new one due at the end of this year, the new one has more hp and torque and a greater range expected to be 320 miles, so why don’t you state facts so that people can make an informed decision? Also I’m not sure that other people have the same preoccupation with performance, are you one those “experts” that drives at 10/10ths everywhere? How come you didn’t comment on the statement of a much nicer interior, actually has ambient lighting, or much better build quality and yes there is rust already! Zoom into the pic, that looks serious!
At some point you are going to have to accept that other manufacturers beat the mg4 hands down.

Why the fighting? , Buy the car you can afford and live with. Lets face it. none of us would be on this forum if we could afford a Plaid. ??

 

[tsedge]

You are quoting figures for the old Kona not the new one due at the end of this year, the new one has more hp and torque and a greater range expected to be 320 miles, so why don’t you state facts so that people can make an informed decision? Also I’m not sure that other people have the same preoccupation with performance, are you one those “experts” that drives at 10/10ths everywhere? How come you didn’t comment on the statement of a much nicer interior, actually has ambient lighting, or much better build quality and yes there is rust already! Zoom into the pic, that looks serious!
At some point you are going to have to accept that other manufacturers beat the mg4 hands down.

Ah... so you are urging people to buy a car that isn't even out yet and for which there is no track record yet (so might be great, might not) which is of a quite different type and in a different price bracket.

Many people have told me that there's a ton of superior EVs "at the same price" as the MG4 and it has never been true any time I have looked. The gap has varied over time but there's always a gap and in my case my car was thousands less than the equivalent competition.

I would be surprised if more expensive metal didn't have a nicer interior, but as it happens I like the MG interior and I have found time and again that you quickly stop noticing the specific materials of a car with familiarity and what you notice in the long run is comfort and practicality, which the MG4 has in spades.

There's room for a ton of different good cars in the EVs space and one doesn't have to be bad for others to be good. Tastes vary enormously.

 

[Rolfe]

I don't understand this down on the MG4's interior. I came from a Golf GTi and I don't honestly feel that I'm slumming it. Of course durability has yet to be tested, but at the moment I can't see much wrong with it. There was an expanse of hard grey plastic in front of the passenger seat in my Golf which was much more noticeable than anything in the MG4.

Sure, the Golf had dual temperature controls, heated seats, rear speakers, a sunroof and... actually I'm struggling now. But these are luxury items and have you seen the price of a new Golf GTi? I don't know what standards the people have who are calling the MG4 tacky and cheap. Maybe Aston Martin?

Here's the thing. If EVs didn't exist, I'd be wanting a new GTi. Heated seats and sunroof and dual temperature controls and all. And I'd be killing myself over how much of my savings I'd have to spend on it, and I don't really know how that would have gone. But I had already made up my mind that my next car would be an EV, even though I didn't know that much about them. The MG4 just leaped out at me as exactly the sort of car I wanted, at a price I could actually afford. I'm happy to trade the heated seats and the sunroof and the dual temperature controls and even the rear windscreen wiper for the thrill of driving an EV and exploring all the new ways of motoring it introduces. It has totally compensated for not going back down the punitively expensive GTi route. And I just don't perceive the interior as tacky or cheap.

 

[Lucky5]

All manufacturers have issues regardless of where they sit in the great hierarchy. Hyundai 1.6 engines, not so hot, plenty of failures I understand, gearboxes on some Peugeot and Renault, the VAG 2.0 tdi oil pump saga that they then stuck in skoda superbs without modding it even though failure had occurred in VW cars, ford ecoboom engines, the list goes on.

Not all of the above have been handled well in terms of how customers were supported so spending more doesn’t always mean things will be better.

I don’t understand singling MG out as being so much worse than any of the manufacturers above, they are all much of a muchness in my mind having owned all sorts over the years.

Reading posts here that I have made a poor decision over and over is wearing thin as well but that’s life I guess. I‘ve had issues that I’ve posted about but since being updated my Trophy seems to be swanning along very nicely now thanks.

Probably won’t check in as often now

 

[CarlMG4]

You are quoting figures for the old Kona not the new one due at the end of this year, the new one has more hp and torque and a greater range expected to be 320 miles,

We can compare it to the extended range mg4 or dual motor version if you like - also not yet released in the UK - much like the new Kona.

The price will be similar to the Kona under £40k, but specs will be undoubtedly better, faster, and much better range.

so why don’t you state facts so that people can make an informed decision?

Also I’m not sure that other people have the same preoccupation with performance, are you one those “experts” that drives at 10/10ths everywhere?

You brought up performance, I was merely stating a fact to go with your baseless statement.

How come you didn’t comment on the statement of a much nicer interior,

I personally like the interior in the Trophy.. very much so.

actually has ambient lighting, or much better build quality and yes there is rust already!

Ahh you got me there, it should have a rear interior light, but fitting bright front lights fixes that. The new models may have them..

Zoom into the pic, that looks serious!

That looks like damage.. not a manufacturing defect.

At some point you are going to have to accept that other manufacturers beat the mg4 hands down.

Again, all manufacturers have their issues with a new car built on a new platform, you don't HAVE to buy in .. you make a choice. Early Teslas even had troubles, and their prices and quality is much higher in general

 

[Rolfe]

All manufacturers have issues regardless of where they sit in the great hierarchy. Hyundai 1.6 engines, not so hot, plenty of failures I understand, gearboxes on some Peugeot and Renault, the VAG 2.0 tdi oil pump saga that they then stuck in skoda superbs without modding it even though failure had occurred in VW cars, ford ecoboom engines, the list goes on.

Not all of the above have been handled well in terms of how customers were supported so spending more doesn’t always mean things will be better.

I don’t understand singling MG out as being so much worse than any of the manufacturers above, they are all much of a muchness in my mind having owned all sorts over the years.

Reading posts here that I have made a poor decision over and over is wearing thin as well but that’s life I guess. I‘ve had issues that I’ve posted about but since being updated my Trophy seems to be swanning along very nicely now thanks.

Probably won’t check in as often now

This is only the fifth car I have owned in my life. Two Fiestas, a Peugeot 306 and the Golf. I haven't had a lemon yet and I'm crossing my fingers in the hope that this isn't the one. When I say no lemon, well, the Peugeot had an issue with the passenger seat continually coming off its rails. They fixed it several times but the fix was temporary and by the time they decided it needed a new seat it was out of warranty. Its AC failed when it was eight years old, and latterly it had an issue with a mysteriously discharging battery and water coming in somewhere. It went to the scrappage scheme in 2009.

The Golf's engine blew up just three months shy of its third birthday - so under warranty. VW put a new engine in it. A wheel fell off when it was ten, and then fell off a second time after being fixed.

Something always happens. But neither of these cars were lemons from the get-go and I kept both of them, very happily, for many years.

I'm aware that the MG4 is a risk. It's a very new model, it's Chinese, and it's silly cheap compared to its rivals. All that telegraphs "be careful". But I chose to take that risk. It was that or an older second-hand EV that wouldn't have the advances being made in the technology, or as good a second-hand Golf GTi as I could reasonably afford. And I didn't want another ICE car, EVs are the way to go I believe.

Ideally I might have waited a year to see if further technological advances, or even more experience under the MG4s belt, would change the equation. But everything conspired to make 2023 the year I had to change my car. I bit the bullet and took what I realised was a bit of a risk, and right now I have a car I'm pretty chuffed with.

So ignore the people who say you made a poor decision. You made a decision that has a good chance of working out very well, but which has some risk. Others, for whom the risk didn't work out, are obviously feeling quite negative. But the numbers are on your side. Most people are very happy with their cars.

 

[Eber]

Here's the thing. If EVs didn't exist, I'd be wanting a new GTi.

That's a good point. The MG4 dual engine version will be the first electric hot hatch. I don't know of any comparable vehicle. If they price it right this will be a stroke of genius.

 

[Rolfe]

Oh, don't think I wasn't tempted. But realistically I can't justify spending that much on a car. Also, I needed a new car by November at the very latest and I'm not a fan of the idea of being the beta tester for a brand new vehicle.