Does it come with a granny charger?

We've been using a granny cable for 18 months now, but it's on a separate new spur and a RCD (residual current detector). Doesn't get warm at all. Older wiring etc may well cause problems. If granny's were dangerous they wouldn't be available, but it does depend on the home end.
 
Probably because it's a 10amp one?
The problems start with the after market ones at 13amp 3kw but it not the wires or fuse at fault it's just limitations of uk sockets rated at 13amp max 10amps constant draw over long periods
 
We've been using a granny cable for 18 months now, but it's on a separate new spur and a RCD (residual current detector). Doesn't get warm at all. Older wiring etc may well cause problems. If granny's were dangerous they wouldn't be available, but it does depend on the home end.
Like all electrical appliances, they are only dangerous if they are used incorrectly or used in a manner that they where not intended to be used by the manufacture, or by running them on an electrical circuit that is not fit for purpose.
If you are pulling 2 Kw’s via a standard three pin plug, then some radiant heat at the plug top is going to happen, fact !.
Even if your electrics are 100% tip top, some small amount of heat will be present at the three pin plug after a while.
This is the same with any small appliances that pull higher load, for a shorter period of time as well.
If you have a high wattage hair dryer or a high wattage electric iron etc.
When the appliances has been running for a while ( drying somebodies long hair for example ) when you switch off the dryer and pull out the plug from the socket outlet, there WILL be heat present at the plug top or the line ( live ) pin of the three pin plug.
Fast boil kettles are the same, but the load is short and sharp.
A Granny cable is pulling 2 Kw’s over a much long period of time, this is when the heat is generated.
If your SOC was low on your EV when you commenced the charge, then it is very likely that the unit, will be running for a good number of hours.
I have nothing against using a Granny cables, I used one myself for 7 months before getting my wall box installed.
I myself also had a dedicated circuit with RCD protection and only ever used this socket outlet to charge the car.
The car was a VW PHEV at the time, from a low state of charge, it would take almost four hours to charge the small pack to full.
When removing the plug straight after the charge was completed, the plug back and the live pin of the plug was warm to the touch.
The very same thing happened in three different locations, when charging from a domestic supply.
It’s purely down to the that high load being drawn over a longer period of time.
The very same thing happens when using a wall box at home.
High load being pulled over a long period of time, therefore heat well be generated.
The difference here is that the wall box is a purpose built standalone unit, with upgraded wiring and accessories that will carry that additional load for longer periods of time, at a much faster rate.
Domestic plugs are rated to carry 13 Amps.
It is stamped on all three pin plugs and are likely to be fitted with a 13 Amp fuse as standard.
Will it take 13 Amps - Yes BUT it was never intended to be used for pulling that type of load over that long time frame.
They are all rated the same, but we all know that some are better made than others.
Side note ? How many people run every appliance in their house with the supplied 13 Amp in line fuse installed ???.
Well on a low powered and sensitive piece of tech equipment, if you are expecting the fuse to fail before the equipment, then it clearly not going to happen !.
Hands up :- How many people are still running tables lamp etc on a standers 13 Amp fuse ?.
This is massively over rated and if a fault in the flex developed, then it is likely to almost go on fire before the fuse fails.
Some owners who have larger packs and want to take full advantage of any “Off - Peak” tariffs, are likely to favour a wall box, purely down to the speed that it can charge.
If you are on a 4 - 5 hour cheap rate tariff, you want to maximise as much of that in charging time.
A Granny is no use for this purpose, it’s charging rate is too slow.
 
We've been using a granny cable for 18 months now, but it's on a separate new spur and a RCD (residual current detector). Doesn't get warm at all. Older wiring etc may well cause problems. If granny's were dangerous they wouldn't be available, but it does depend on the home end.
Not warm at all? ?
You sure?
 
I've had my granny charger on for 16 hours (it's all I use at home) and the worst the plug's been is just detectably warm. It's plugged into a metal-clad socket in my garage.

It really does depend on the quality of the socket you plug into. They aren't all equal.
 
I've had my granny charger on for 16 hours (it's all I use at home) and the worst the plug's been is just detectably warm. It's plugged into a metal-clad socket in my garage.

It really does depend on the quality of the socket you plug into. They aren't all equal.
And metal clad socket likely acting as a heatsink/radiator too
 
Thanks for all the comments, was also wondering if you use the 3 pin with an extension cable would it be best to get a heavy duty ext cable or would the ones that you can pick up from Wilko/Ikea etc be okay?
 
Thanks for all the comments, was also wondering if you use the 3 pin with an extension cable would it be best to get a heavy duty ext cable or would the ones that you can pick up from Wilko/Ikea etc be okay?

If you can, definitely look at getting a dedicated EV charger, it's much safer.

If that's not practical look at getting an outside socket as close to where the car is so you don't have to use an extension. Again much safer.
 
If you can, definitely look at getting a dedicated EV charger, it's much safer.

If that's not practical look at getting an outside socket as close to where the car is so you don't have to use an extension. Again much safer.
Hi, I all ready have a EV charger installed an Ohme Home Pro, just wanted to know some info about charging when visiting relatives.
 
Iv just messaged mg Uk to ask if a type two cable is provided with car and they replied with only come with a granny charging cable and a link to buy a type two sable for nearly £240. Disappointed to be honest. I just expected it to have one.
 
When looking for a type2 cable check the rating is for 7kW and 32A and get one the length you may need, for example if a EVSE bay is ice'd you can still plug in.
 
Iv just messaged mg Uk to ask if a type two cable is provided with car and they replied with only come with a granny charging cable and a link to buy a type two sable for nearly £240. Disappointed to be honest. I just expected it to have one.
l bought my ZS last sept (2021) and it came with both ??
 
When looking for a type2 cable check the rating is for 7kW and 32A and get one the length you may need, for example if a EVSE bay is ice'd you can still plug in.
Does it have to be from MG I buy it, can I shop around? Is there dodgy ones that should be avoided?
 
Does it have to be from MG I buy it, can I shop around? Is there dodgy ones that should be avoided?
No - You can purchase a good quality cable from where you like !.
I have one of these ( as does others ) and the quality is really good.
You can increase the length to 10 metres when ordering if you want ?.
You need a 32 Amp cable and NOT the 16 Amp rating.
The link below is for the standard 5 metre cable is rated at 32 Amps.
£114.00 including VAT.


 
That’s good news, thanks for the link. My chargers getting fitted on Friday, once that in I’ll get a cable ordered. They’ll be sitting idle for months by the sounds of it?.
 
That’s good news, thanks for the link. My chargers getting fitted on Friday, once that in I’ll get a cable ordered. They’ll be sitting idle for months by the sounds of it?.
Did you not get a tethered charger, You will then be able to keep the type 2 cable in the car for when you are away. I bought a second variable output granny charger to suit my home solar and battery setup.
 
No, unteatherd for me. I also have solar panels, we don’t have a battery for storage. Would you recommend one?
 
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