"It Begin's" - Tesla has opened some of their super chargers to others in the Netherlands !.

[Lovemyev]

So, the rumours that Tesla was considering opening up their super charger network, to non Tesla owners has some credibility in it after all ?.

 

[biffo]

Yep - excellent idea, it's all about choice and increased capacity.

I expect the cost will be higher than the current networks, but less than IONITY. There will undoubtably be issues of cable length for some makes/models so hopefully drivers will be sensible about this - blocking units will happen though due to cars not designed to work with these.

Unlikely to be my first choice based on cost, but definitely will be on my 'B' list of chargers (once it arrives in UK). Lets hope this pushes some of the other networks to be better

 

[Deleted member 823]

Saw this on the BBC this morning which said the cost for non-Tesla drivers would be higher.

 

[Lovemyev]

I expect the cost will be higher than the current networks, but less than IONITY. There will undoubtably be issues of cable length for some makes/models so hopefully drivers will be sensible about this - blocking units will happen though due to cars not designed to work with these.

Both good points raised @biffo .
And these points are dealt with by Bjorn in his video.
It is not nationwide in the Netherlands - Yet.

 

[biffo]

Both good points raised @biffo .
And these points are dealt with by Bjorn in his video.
It is not nationwide in the Netherlands - Yet.

It's had quite a lot of twitter coverage in the past few days too - I can understand why some Tesla owners might feel a touch annoyed that their USP is being eroded - but if they don't allow access at the busier sites (when this rolls out nationwide) and use the increased revenue to further extend the network - then everyone wins.

 

[Lovemyev]

It's had quite a lot of twitter coverage in the past few days too - I can understand why some Tesla owners might feel a touch annoyed that their USP is being eroded - but if they don't allow access at the busier sites (when this rolls out nationwide) and use the increased revenue to further extend the network - then everyone wins.

Grid serve etc getting in on the act for providing a brilliant service for multiple charges points etc.
They have big plans to expand across other parts of the country which is great, but they need to build the infrastructure first.
Tesla has a huge advantage here, because many of these areas are already covered by the super charger network
I believe Tesla see this as an opportunity to get in and earn some money from expanding their customer base.
The charging and car building programs are run as two completely different companies.
Bjorn even gives a demo on how other people cars, will access the Tesla units.
I can imagine a Tesla owner, rolling up to a supercharge site, finding it full of other models charging that are NOT Tesla’s !.
That is going to really stretch on your ability to control your temper alright.
It has been mentioned that when Tesla have been applying for planning permission for new sites lately, the local council bodies have been asking for FULL multiple use access for all EV makes of car on the units.
Don’t know if this is 100% correct, but it would explain the new approach to other EV owners.
It will be truly welcomed by all EV owners I would think, if and when it comes to the U.K.

 

[biffo]

Lets hope this forces everyone to up their game - the big petrochemical companies get a terrible reputation but must have some of the biggest potential budgets - and potential loss of earnings from EVs. Would be nice to see Shell and BP really start to build their infrastructure to take advantage of the dwindling number of ICE vehicles over the coming decades.

 

[Deleted member 6627]

Just the way Tesla will go. First they stopped the free supercharging, then they stopped the referral programme. No wonder that they are opening up the supercharger to all. Elon didn't set up the supercharger network just to keep Tesla owners happy.

 

[chowbenter]

I read some comments about this on USA based ev sites & they said it wouldn't go down well in the USA if they had to share with other marques of EV especially if they can only draw 50kW.

 

[Jaygee]

This is just a trial, there appear to be two tariffs. One with a higher rate and no subs (not quite ionity rates as far as I understand) and one with a monthly subs and you pay Tesla rates. This has already peeved off most if not all Tesla drivers. The loss of exclusivity troubles some whilst others, myself included, are worried about congestion. Elon has always mentioned that he would like his technology to be available to all ev owners and brands, so it is not entirely surprising. However, Tesla might have just shot itself in its foot as long as future sales goes. Remains to be seen.

 

[biffo]

I can understand that some Tesla owners might not be happy, but hopefully they’ll only open up sites which aren’t already too busy - and invest revenue in expanding the number of units there and adding more sites.

The attraction for me (as a non-Tesla owner) is the rumour of taking a subscription for a single month if it works out better value for holidays, etc. otherwise I’d use it at a higher rate if cheaper reliable sites are busy. Whether I pay £10 (at Gridserve for example) or £15 (at Tesla - just guessing!) to charge during annual holiday doesn’t really matter to me.