MG4 in Australia

clayton4115 said:
Does anyone know when the trip computer resets? I see I go away for 20 mins and come back and the trip computer still shows my last trip time and consumption etc and not a new trip, I thought it would reset after 5 mns of the car being off?

Nothing in the manual that talks about it.

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I've left mine for about 50 minutes and it still hasn't reset. I actually don't mind that on a long journey where I'm usually stopping to charge as I can then just use the since last charge reading if I want to while still knowing how far I am through the whole trip.
 
Corindikev said:
Page 32 in the manual
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Yeah, nothing says what the time interval is for the car to declare a new trip start.

I like that it doesn't reset after breaks, but I have no idea how long those breaks can be before it does reset. Seems an hour is the current best guess.

Long enough for a steak and two beers at a pub and to give the keys to the other half!
 
Has anyone found that the Accumulated Total resets itself at about 4000km? Disclaimer: I may have accidentally pushed the reset but wasn’t aware if it.
 
siteguru said:
Accumulated Total trip resets when the counter reaches 100 hours of up-time, or when you manually reset it. It can also reset when software updates are being applied.
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Hi, intriguing comment for reasons that I will go into at some depth... but for now, How?
It could well have saved me a couple of hours of heartache :LOL:
 
So I did my "big trip" and it was a great success, save for one small, well smallish, well OK, very stressful, incident :ROFLMAO:

The journey is from Haberfield, Sydney, NSW to Black Point, SA and then back after a lovely break at the beach house for a week and a half pottering around the beautiful scenery of Yorke Peninsula*.

Around 1,500 km's there, another 1,000 or so while pottering and then another 1,500 back.

Overall charging cost was AU$355 (GBP 175) for the 3,000 km's there and back. I didn't take close track of the cost for the 1,000 pottering around as our beach house has solar panels and I used then to trickle charge whenever I was not out and about, along with DC Fast charging when convenient.

That $355 was on a total of 605 kWh giving me an effective $11.60 per 100 k's (@19.8 kWh per 100km) The vast majority of this drive was at 100-115 kmh. I was also carrying plenty of supplies (liquid refreshments of the amber ale and Rose variety) plus the Braumach spare.

The VW Passat Alltrack Estate ICE I used to do this trip in cost approx $17 per 100k's in fuel and incurred a much larger "servicing" overhead. All in all it was significantly cheaper even with the reliance on expensive DC Chargers to use the MG4 and with only a 10% slower overall journey due to the charging time overhead.

Basically, a great success and am already looking forward to doing it again in a months time!

Oh, except for the stressful incident. I'll explain in detail later...


*Have photos. Will put them up in the "post a picture" thread.
 
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Jamesrr said:
I get to the Tesla charger. I plug in feeling very relieved.

It doesn't charge.

Nada. No action. I can't remove the charger. It's locked and won't unlock.
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I had similar at Chatswood Supercharger, charge would not start and plug would get locked in. After a bit of time (minutes) however it did release.

Then I moved to next charge station, same problem. Third time lucky charging started.

What was problematic was phone signal (and scrolling though plugshare checkins looks like a common complaint at that location), but also I discovered plugshare reports of a couple of charge stations not functioning correctly. I've had phone signal problems there before (Telstra) so I'll be looking for an alternative charge stop next time in Sydney. Sydney is a pain, $50 in road tolls just for a one night stay.
 
Jamesrr said:
The "stressful incident"...

I think I've uncovered a bug with the GOM. I know, who would have thought :LOL:

Sooo, in one of the legs of the trip coming back I had a 265km to travel from a 80% SoC start. On the open road with no surrounding cars at 110kmh this is actually pushing it too far. Half way there I figured I'd do a quick top up stop in one of the town's on the way.

I don't want to rely on this stop as it is a single plug only 50kW unit so not that fast and a single plug makes me nervous.
So I detour the few extra k's to go to it and sure enough, there's a Tesla there and on asking how long they expect to be, am told another 35 minutes or so. Sigh.

OK, I'll just slow down and get to Wagga with a small margin to spare. The margin between the GOM calculated remaining distance and my actual remaining journey starts to narrow... Hmm.

Might be time for more extreme energy conservation techniques...

I find myself a nice big B Double semi to sit behind at full "3 Bar" following distance of the ACC. It's actually a bonus to be behind the truck as not only do I get much better energy consumption but it is also going a bit faster than my previous 95kmh so a win all-round.

When following a truck like this be very careful not to "tail gate" it. You want to make sure you are staying the full 3 bar ACC following distance setting to be safe for braking, allowing enough gap for cars that want to pass to be able to, and to minimise the risk of stone strike etc...

You still get plenty of extra range and don't piss off the truck driver ;)

I get to just before Wagga and the GOM shows me with 13km range left and 4% SOC. The GOM vs Actual remaining margin has stayed nice and stable for the last 50 k's. I'm making it to Wagga no problem. Whew (y)

There's a long uphill section of road just before you reach the outskirts of town and an overtaking lane put there just for my convenience! Why not I think!

So I put my foot down, and blast past the truck consuming far more energy in that brief 20 seconds than the past 5 minutes. Hmmm, GOM range remaining has gone from 13km to "---", Huh? That's strange I think. Hmmm, maybe it wasn't such a good idea to pass but... I've still got 3% SoC so no problem.

I get to the Tesla charger. I plug in feeling very relieved.

It doesn't charge.

Nada. No action. I can't remove the charger. It's locked and won't unlock.

I try The Tesla app again and then tap the "commence charging" label in iSmart.

Thinking, thinking... "failed".

Stress level rising.

I find the YouTube video for how to manually unlock the charger. Lucky I read these forums enough to know that was even possible! I manage to use a prong off my phone charger to lever out the cable cover.

Hooray! I manage to get the charger out.

Try a different charging unit. Nope. Same failure.

I'm thinking the GOM algorithm has been tricked by the brief high power drain at such a low SoC and has calculated an invalid number. I'm thinking somehow that invalid result has also affected the cars comms with the DC charger.

I find a pair of 22kW type 2 AC chargers nearby. I'm thinking if I can add a little bit of charge I can get the SoC up enough that the GOM will calculate a valid result and it will be able to DC charge again.

I nurse the car to the chargers... I set up an account on the random small-time charging Company that runs these units. I plug the car in, go to activate and.... the units are down for "maintenance". Of course they are.

Stress levels really up now.

I go to a 50kW "older" DC charger and see if I can get that to kick in. Plug it in and tap "commence charging". It appears to start and then stops with the charger displaying a message saying the car had stopped the charging session.

OK, I tap the "commence charging" button for the charger again and simultaneously tap the "commence charging" button on the iSmart app for the car...

It starts to charge :love:

Well that was freaky. I go and have lunch and let it add 50 kWh over the next hour. The iSmart app displays how much range it thinks it has along with the SoC.

I drive off to Yass for the next leg of the journey and when I plug in there, it works just fine.

I get home two & and a half hours later than I planned.

A valuable lesson learned.
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Interesting that Wagga Tesla charger didn't work I had the same problem with my Hyundai Ioniq and the car would not charge at that site, as anyone else with the MG4 been successful in charging at the Tesla chargers at Wagga?
 
Whoever the mod is who decided to turn my multiple independent posts into one TLDR wall of text, thanks... Not.

Why would you do that?

There's a reason people break down their posts into bite size chunks that are independently relevant.

I'll put them back into the individual pieces they should be when I have the time.





*I presume you aren't actually an Australian are you?
 
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Jamesrr said:
Hi, intriguing comment for reasons that I will go into at some depth... but for now, How?
It could well have saved me a couple of hours of heartache :LOL:
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Press the middle-right steering wheel button so that the icon lights up blue on the upper-right of the driver display.
Use the right joystick to select the Accumulated Total trip meter.
Press in and hold (for about 1 sec) the right joystick and the trip meter should reset.
Press the middle-right steering wheel button again to turn off the blue icon (so that the joystick reverts to controlling your media/volume).

Same method applies for the other trip meters should you desire to reset them manually. :)
 
It does so for me, if I reset the Accumulated Total trip. (e.g. 100% SoC at the moment shows about 150-160 miles range; resetting the trip raises that to 180+ miles).
 
"A Stressful incident"...

I think I've uncovered a bug with the GOM. I know, who would have thought :LOL:

Sooo, in the Hay to Wagga Wagga leg of my recent long trip coming back I had 265km to travel from a 80% SoC start. On the open road with no surrounding cars at 110kmh this is actually pushing it too far. Half way there I figured I'd do a quick top up stop in Narrandera on the way.

I wouldn't normally plan to rely on this stop as it is a single plug only 50kW unit so not that fast and a single plug makes me nervous.

So anyway I detour the few extra k's to go to it and sure enough, there's a Tesla there and on asking how long they expect to be, am told another 35 minutes or so. Sigh.

OK, I'll just slow down and get to Wagga with a small margin to spare.

Off I go but the margin between the GOM calculated remaining distance and my actual remaining journey starts to narrow... Hmm.

Might be time for more extreme energy conservation techniques...

I find myself a nice big B Double semi to sit behind at full "3 Bar" following distance of the ACC. It's actually a bonus to be behind the truck as not only do I get much better energy consumption but it is also going a bit faster than my previous 95kmh so a win all-round.

When following a truck like this be very careful not to "tail gate" it. You want to make sure you are staying the full 3 bar ACC following distance setting to be safe for braking, allowing enough gap for cars that want to pass to be able to, and to minimise the risk of stone strike etc...

You still get plenty of extra range and don't piss off the truck driver ;)

I get to just before Wagga and the GOM shows me with 13km range left and 4% SOC. The GOM vs Actual remaining margin has stayed nice and stable for the last 50 k's. I'm making it to Wagga no problem. Whew (y)

There's a long uphill section of road just before you reach the outskirts of town and an overtaking lane put there just for my convenience! Why not I think!

So I put my foot down, and blast past the truck consuming far more energy in that brief 20 seconds than the past 5 minutes. Hmmm, GOM range remaining has gone from 13km to "---", Huh? That's strange I think. Hmmm, maybe it wasn't such a good idea to pass but... I've still got 3% SoC so no problem.

I get to the Tesla charger. I plug in feeling very relieved.

It doesn't charge.

Nada. No action. I can't remove the charger. It's locked and won't unlock.

I try The Tesla app again and then tap the "commence charging" label in iSmart.

Thinking, thinking... "failed".

Stress level rising.

I find the YouTube video for how to manually unlock the charger. Lucky I read these forums enough to know that was even possible! I manage to use a prong off my phone charger to lever out the cable cover.

Hooray! I manage to get the charger out.

Try a different charging unit. Nope. Same failure.

I'm thinking the GOM algorithm has been tricked by the brief high power drain at such a low SoC and has calculated an invalid number. I'm thinking somehow that invalid result has also affected the cars comms with the DC charger.

I find a pair of 22kW type 2 AC chargers nearby. I'm thinking if I can add a little bit of charge I can get the SoC up enough that the GOM will calculate a valid result and it will be able to DC charge again.

I nurse the car to the chargers... I set up an account on the random small-time charging Company that runs these units. I plug the car in, go to activate and.... the units are down for "maintenance". Of course they are.

Stress levels really up now.

I go to a 50kW "older" DC charger and see if I can get that to kick in. Plug it in and tap "commence charging". It appears to start and then stops with the charger displaying a message saying the car had stopped the charging session.

OK, I tap the "commence charging" button for the charger again and simultaneously tap the "commence charging" button on the iSmart app for the car...

It starts to charge :love:

Well that was freaky. I go and have lunch and let it add 50 kWh over the next hour. The iSmart app displays how much range it thinks it has along with the SoC.

I drive off to Yass for the next leg of the journey and when I plug in there, it works just fine.

I get home two & and a half hours later than I planned.

A valuable lesson learned.
 
Jamesrr said:
"A Stressful incident"...

I think I've uncovered a bug with the GOM. I know, who would have thought :LOL:

Sooo, in the Hay to Wagga Wagga leg of my recent long trip coming back I had 265km to travel from a 80% SoC start. On the open road with no surrounding cars at 110kmh this is actually pushing it too far. Half way there I figured I'd do a quick top up stop in Narrandera on the way.

I wouldn't normally plan to rely on this stop as it is a single plug only 50kW unit so not that fast and a single plug makes me nervous.

So anyway I detour the few extra k's to go to it and sure enough, there's a Tesla there and on asking how long they expect to be, am told another 35 minutes or so. Sigh.

OK, I'll just slow down and get to Wagga with a small margin to spare.

Off I go but the margin between the GOM calculated remaining distance and my actual remaining journey starts to narrow... Hmm.

Might be time for more extreme energy conservation techniques...

I find myself a nice big B Double semi to sit behind at full "3 Bar" following distance of the ACC. It's actually a bonus to be behind the truck as not only do I get much better energy consumption but it is also going a bit faster than my previous 95kmh so a win all-round.

When following a truck like this be very careful not to "tail gate" it. You want to make sure you are staying the full 3 bar ACC following distance setting to be safe for braking, allowing enough gap for cars that want to pass to be able to, and to minimise the risk of stone strike etc...

You still get plenty of extra range and don't piss off the truck driver ;)

I get to just before Wagga and the GOM shows me with 13km range left and 4% SOC. The GOM vs Actual remaining margin has stayed nice and stable for the last 50 k's. I'm making it to Wagga no problem. Whew (y)

There's a long uphill section of road just before you reach the outskirts of town and an overtaking lane put there just for my convenience! Why not I think!

So I put my foot down, and blast past the truck consuming far more energy in that brief 20 seconds than the past 5 minutes. Hmmm, GOM range remaining has gone from 13km to "---", Huh? That's strange I think. Hmmm, maybe it wasn't such a good idea to pass but... I've still got 3% SoC so no problem.

I get to the Tesla charger. I plug in feeling very relieved.

It doesn't charge.

Nada. No action. I can't remove the charger. It's locked and won't unlock.

I try The Tesla app again and then tap the "commence charging" label in iSmart.

Thinking, thinking... "failed".

Stress level rising.

I find the YouTube video for how to manually unlock the charger. Lucky I read these forums enough to know that was even possible! I manage to use a prong off my phone charger to lever out the cable cover.

Hooray! I manage to get the charger out.

Try a different charging unit. Nope. Same failure.

I'm thinking the GOM algorithm has been tricked by the brief high power drain at such a low SoC and has calculated an invalid number. I'm thinking somehow that invalid result has also affected the cars comms with the DC charger.

I find a pair of 22kW type 2 AC chargers nearby. I'm thinking if I can add a little bit of charge I can get the SoC up enough that the GOM will calculate a valid result and it will be able to DC charge again.

I nurse the car to the chargers... I set up an account on the random small-time charging Company that runs these units. I plug the car in, go to activate and.... the units are down for "maintenance". Of course they are.

Stress levels really up now.

I go to a 50kW "older" DC charger and see if I can get that to kick in. Plug it in and tap "commence charging". It appears to start and then stops with the charger displaying a message saying the car had stopped the charging session.

OK, I tap the "commence charging" button for the charger again and simultaneously tap the "commence charging" button on the iSmart app for the car...

It starts to charge :love:

Well that was freaky. I go and have lunch and let it add 50 kWh over the next hour. The iSmart app displays how much range it thinks it has along with the SoC.

I drive off to Yass for the next leg of the journey and when I plug in there, it works just fine.

I get home two & and a half hours later than I planned.

A valuable lesson learned.
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I hope you had a beer at the “Clubhouse Hotel” while you charged at Yass, you needed it!
 

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