Trophy vs GT

[Chongma]

Unfortunately I don't live near a motorway, I'm driving on country A roads at 50-60mph limits most of the time. There is 1 long stretch of dual carriageway that I burn through at the weekend, so will let you know then.
But the temperature is definitely making a big difference. Today's 30min / 15mile return home was averaging 4.6 miles/kWh! Been nowhere near that before.

 

[Moroboshi]

Unfortunately I don't live near a motorway, I'm driving on country A roads at 50-60mph limits most of the time. There is 1 long stretch of dual carriageway that I burn through at the weekend, so will let you know then.
But the temperature is definitely making a big difference. Today's 30min / 15mile return home was averaging 4.6 miles/kWh! Been nowhere near that before.

4.6 mi/kWh is super impressive, that's more than my wife gets in her tiny Fiat 500e. And yeah if you could let me know how it fares at speed that would be great.

 

[leomindel]

Last week I was getting 3.9 mi/kWh on both our GT and on our MG5.

It all depends on your right foot and average speed. Over 65 mph and in all electric cars the range plummets.

 

[Jackolino]

Isn't it the same with combustion engines? When I'm on cruise control and driving at 110 km/h on the autobahn, my consumption drops to around 8 litres of petrol per 100 km. If I drive at 150 km/h, it's 12 litres or more. So also 50% more fuel consumption. I wouldn't worry about it and would rather enjoy the vehicle.

 

[leomindel]

Isn't it the same with combustion engines? When I'm on cruise control and driving at 110 km/h on the autobahn, my consumption drops to around 8 litres of petrol per 100 km. If I drive at 150 km/h, it's 12 litres or more. So also 50% more fuel consumption. I wouldn't worry about it and would rather enjoy the vehicle.

Yes it is the same however this subject comes up more with EV even though you don’t have to spend time pouring smelly fuel all over your hands.

 

[Moroboshi]

I managed to get a drive in a Trophy today. Took me a while to find one as dealers only seem to want to keep GTs as demos. My thoughts are that the Trophy seems plenty quick, I launched it a few times, and it was certainly smile inducing. I'll be test-driving the GT next week, so it will make for an interesting comparison.

I'd of course read about the high sitting position, and honestly it was fine for me. I dropped to seat as low as it would go and it was basically the same as my MX-5. (I'm 5'10") The hands blocking the screens thing is certainly a thing for me, it's a bit clumsy but not a deal breaker, it's not as if I'm staring Apple Maps all the time.

The dealer was pretty quick to slash £3200 off the price and I get the sense there was more that could be extracted. How much have others managed to squeeze out?

Few questions for owners -

1 - It was always creeping forwards at rest, like a petrol automatic. I've never seen an EV do that before, and it felt rather pointless. Can this be disabled?

2 - What is the point of sport mode? I tried Comfort, which was fine for wafting around gently, then I switched to Sport which felt better, then Super Sport was better again. So why does Sport exist? What's the use case?

3 - The beeps are kind of annoying. I had no idea what any of them meant. Can the volume be turned down permanently?

4 - I flipped through the regen modes, but none of them were one pedal driving. Is there some other way to engage that?

Thanks all.

 

[leomindel]

1 - It was always creeping forwards at rest, like a petrol automatic. I've never seen an EV do that before, and it felt rather pointless. Can this be disabled?

Not had that in our GT, there is autohold I thought.

2 - What is the point of sport mode? I tried Comfort, which was fine for wafting around gently, then I switched to Sport which felt better, then Super Sport was better again. So why does Sport exist? What's the use case?

On the GT the Sport and Super Sport turns on the FWD. I can't see what it would do on Trophy. Super Sport also tuns off Automatic Cruise Control.

3 - The beeps are kind of annoying. I had no idea what any of them meant. Can the volume be turned down permanently?

You can turn most of them off permanently in the central console, also turn off the pointless Weather greeting.

4 - I flipped through the regen modes, but none of them were one pedal driving. Is there some other way to engage that?

It is in the central console not on the regen paddles

 

[Chongma]

Think the only way we can really test this is to have a GT & a Trophy follow each other around. But as I haven't seen another Cyberster on the road, don't think that's going to happen around here.
Temperature, roof up/down, heating, tyres, there's just too many variables.

Either way, so yesterday morning, 5 degrees C, with a 30kg passenger, no heating, roof up, we were probably around 2.8-3.1 miles/kWh on the dual carriageway going around 70mph with no traffic.

Then on the return, beautiful sunny 13 degrees C so roof down, music blaring, guessing around 3.5-3.8 miles/kWh on the other side of the 10mile stretch with a few more cars around.

Ultimately, just enjoy whatever car you have!

 

[leomindel]

I was thinking the same thing. Is there a trophy owner in west London who wants to meet up at ace cafe and drive out to Uxbridge and back ?

 

[GranTurismoEra]

I was thinking the same thing. Is there a trophy owner in west London who wants to meet up at ace cafe and drive out to Uxbridge and back ?

So youre local. Not got the car yet. Holding on until a good spec comes up at around 50. Id prefer a Yellow or Red GT I think.

 

[Gyuri]

Hi,
The difference in weight is less than 5% or about the weight of an average man. (depending where you live ) I doubt its material to street handling. The GT with its front motor puts weight distribution at an even 50/50 instead of the 51/49 rear bias for the Trophy. This might be the explanation for the GT over the Trophy in handling. But if not on a race track and on public roads I doubt any substantive difference. Until someone does a back to back comparison between the GT and Trophy its all just guessing. Reduced range for the GT on the specification sheet does not detail if the dual motor (front) was employed for testing or were the estimates taken from "comfort mode" only which is rear wheel drive only. One would think the range testing would consider the front motor contributing at least a bit as its a dual motor car. The GT in "comfort mode" seems to get quite good range. I've never run it in a wide enough range to measure objectively. My average (according to the display) is a bit over 14 liters per 100k. Now with close to 14,000 km on the clock. Of course much worse if enjoying aggressive use of "sport mode" or higher speeds. A discussion took place about the friction and drag caused by the unpowered front motor in the GT in "comfort mode" (front motor along for the ride). Seat of the pants feeling is that no resistance can be felt. But that's subjective of course. I bought a GT as that's all that's available here in Thailand. However, I would still have bought a GT. Its like having 2 cars in one. In "comfort mode" its pretty much a Trophy and nice touring car. In "sport mode" it a muscle car. I drive predominantly in "comfort" but with every drive I will employ the use of dual motors and it never ceases to amaze. Frankly that much power is not necessary, but you would never know it from the smile on my face. The added cost could be a factor at another 5K lbs. But that's like 10% additional cost for a "2nd car" experience. I don't know if insurance is different or not as we don't get the Trophy. If the Trophy were substantially less weight (smaller battery) it might be a different story but with the same battery and less than a 5% favorable weight advantage I think the GT represents a more compelling proposition.

14 liters per 100k???

 

[SunriseJak]

14 liters per 100k???

Hi, Oops obvious "typo". The actual metric is 14.8 Kwh/100km. Which equates to 4.2 mi/Kwh.

 

[leomindel]

Hi,
The difference in weight is less than 5% or about the weight of an average man. (depending where you live ) I doubt its material to street handling. The GT with its front motor puts weight distribution at an even 50/50 instead of the 51/49 rear bias for the Trophy. This might be the explanation for the GT over the Trophy in handling. But if not on a race track and on public roads I doubt any substantive difference. Until someone does a back to back comparison between the GT and Trophy its all just guessing. Reduced range for the GT on the specification sheet does not detail if the dual motor (front) was employed for testing or were the estimates taken from "comfort mode" only which is rear wheel drive only. One would think the range testing would consider the front motor contributing at least a bit as its a dual motor car. The GT in "comfort mode" seems to get quite good range. I've never run it in a wide enough range to measure objectively. My average (according to the display) is a bit over 14 liters per 100k. Now with close to 14,000 km on the clock. Of course much worse if enjoying aggressive use of "sport mode" or higher speeds. A discussion took place about the friction and drag caused by the unpowered front motor in the GT in "comfort mode" (front motor along for the ride). Seat of the pants feeling is that no resistance can be felt. But that's subjective of course. I bought a GT as that's all that's available here in Thailand. However, I would still have bought a GT. Its like having 2 cars in one. In "comfort mode" its pretty much a Trophy and nice touring car. In "sport mode" it a muscle car. I drive predominantly in "comfort" but with every drive I will employ the use of dual motors and it never ceases to amaze. Frankly that much power is not necessary, but you would never know it from the smile on my face. The added cost could be a factor at another 5K lbs. But that's like 10% additional cost for a "2nd car" experience. I don't know if insurance is different or not as we don't get the Trophy. If the Trophy were substantially less weight (smaller battery) it might be a different story but with the same battery and less than a 5% favorable weight advantage I think the GT represents a more compelling proposition.

This very well sums up why we went for the GT and why we are touring with it. In comfort mode I do not think it will be any difference in terms of reaching the next charger destination in Europe.

Enjoy your choice.