Unexpected braking y'think ??

[DaevM]

So, looking through breakers and came across this (very) sad sight.
Hopefully no-ones on here ?

What do you reckon then looking at the damage ? Unexpected sharp braking ? ?

 

[webhiker]

I'd say too short distance to vehicle in front of you

 

[siteguru]

Maybe. Or maybe just the result of a typical Audi/BMW driver driving up your chuff, leaving no reaction time.

 

[webhiker]

Same same

 

[DaevM]

Maybe. Or maybe just the result of a typical Audi/BMW driver driving up your chuff, leaving no reaction time.

I find a really useful approach when they do that is double the distance you're allowing to the car in front of you. Then you've got plenty ( relatively ) of time to react and effectively give them more time than they think they need.

I'd say too short distance to vehicle in front of you

At the end of the day always this f'sure

 

[siteguru]

I find a really useful approach when they do that is double the distance you're allowing to the car in front of you. Then you've got plenty ( relatively ) of time to react and effectively give them more time than they think they need.

That's exactly what Ashley Neal (driving instructor on YouTube, son of former Liverpool player Phil Neal) recommends.

 

[DaevM]

That's exactly what Ashley Neal (driving instructor on YouTube, son of former Liverpool player Phil Neal) recommends.

God I'm good ???

That's exactly what Ashley Neal (driving instructor on YouTube, son of former Liverpool player Phil Neal) recommends.

So, with that thought in mind, and kind of where I'm going with this ( sorry if it's obvious) is this is one of the problems I have with the 'assists'. Driving is so much more than the individual component parts the 'assists' cater for.
You are constantly having to assess other drivers actions and amend yours accordingly. Too close? create space. I think at the moment the assists aren't capable of making those judgements, so can inadvertently create potential hazards and risks by adding to others poor driving practices.
Just a thought

I mean until they are all talking to each other, which'll be a while yet...

 

[Kithmo]

Looks like he was stationary and someone ran up his chuff to me.

 

[andyMG4]

Am I old and boring, or do others find the ACC on setting 3 still a bit close for comfort?

 

[DaevM]

Am I old and boring, or do others find the ACC on setting 3 still a bit close for comfort?

I'm so old and boring I have it all off. Just about manage go fwd/bwd ?

 

[OriginalBigAl]

On the up side, the passenger cage appeared to do its job. Dogs definitely on the back seat and never in the boot. I do need to transport a 13kg butane bottle around at replacement time, normally strap it in the boot. Might revise the plan on that!
Ruddy condensation in the light cluster I see , so it doesn't jolt out.

 

[decrep]

Yes, it's a pain having to drive for somebody else.
You increase the gap in front, (1car length for every 10kM/hr + the person behinds braking time).
Then somebody else fills it and you have to move back again.

On occasions I've been naughty and tried to teach them just how dangerously they're driving. A quick stab on the brakes, can do it, but can also produce an angry reaction from the tailgater, making matters worse. The most successful I've been is on a long straight deserted open road, apart from the car approaching from behind. That then sat right on my ginger, making no attempt to pass. So I pulled over to the left, so I had 2 wheels in the gravel, sprayed the car behind with little stones. It moved back very quick! Hopefully he/she/it may learn from the experience, and either pass or sit back at a reasonable distance.

 

[Ian Key]

So, looking through breakers and came across this (very) sad sight.
Hopefully no-ones on here ?

What do you reckon then looking at the damage ? Unexpected sharp braking ? ?

I reckon an arctic rammed it when it was queuing in stationary traffic on a motorway.

 

[DaevM]

I reckon it was a little old lady on an electric bike didn't quite get her turn right in Sainsbury's carpark.... ?. Bless 'er. She's alright though ?

 

[pjmmk]

We're at that dangerous stage where computers are controlling important aspects of some cars but other vehicles are still completely in the hands of humans.
When a driver does an emergency stop in front of you, it's usually easy to see why and you prepare for it, maybe even subconsciously.
When a computer decides to do one out of the blue, it can catch people completely by surprise.
Ok, they shouldn't have been that close but we all know what people are like and, being in the right isn't much consolation when the back of your car has been randomly rearranged.

 

[Rolfe]

However, if something happens inside the car to force the driver to do an emergency stop, it would look the same. Less common, but it can happen. Once, many decades ago, I suddenly and momentarily lost my eyesight while driving. I think it was low blood sugar - I'm not diabetic, but I hadn't eaten much and I'd been out riding. The circumstances were favourable - slowish speed, in roadworks so cones on either side, nobody was going to pass me, and the road was straight. So I didn't have to do an emergency stop as such, I just did a normal stop. The guy behind me must have wondered what the hell I was doing. Within a few seconds my vision cleared again and I drove on. But if that had happened at speed on a motorway? Brakes on hard, no question.

 

[hmibennett]

Yes, it's a pain having to drive for somebody else.
You increase the gap in front, (1car length for every 10kM/hr + the person behinds braking time).
Then somebody else fills it and you have to move back again.

On occasions I've been naughty and tried to teach them just how dangerously they're driving. A quick stab on the brakes, can do it, but can also produce an angry reaction from the tailgater, making matters worse. The most successful I've been is on a long straight deserted open road, apart from the car approaching from behind. That then sat right on my ginger, making no attempt to pass. So I pulled over to the left, so I had 2 wheels in the gravel, sprayed the car behind with little stones. It moved back very quick! Hopefully he/she/it may learn from the experience, and either pass or sit back at a reasonable distance.

I find that almost always when I leave what I consider a sensible gap to the car in front, some idiot always lurches into it.

 

[DaevM]

I find that almost always when I leave what I consider a sensible gap to the car in front, some idiot always lurches into it.

Yup. It's like "you're welcome, just saved a space for you as you're obviously in so much more of a rush to get where you're going than I am - hrrrrrmmph!! "
Obviously special AND entitled, but never thought to leave early enough to arrive with time to spare ?

 

[DWR]

I accept that the following car has a duty to keep a safe distance behind, but my car's propensity to slam on the brakes when in cruise control and it "sees" a vehicle approaching in the opposite direction (intermittently) does not help those following me, particularly when the road in front of me is clear for miles!

My car has been through its 1st servicing, during which it had modules replaced by recall (of which I knew naught beforehand) and infotainment system updated to R59. The dangerous steering wheel wrenching by the lane keeping system was much alleviated thank goodness, but the intermittent full brake application remains.

Any ideas?

 

[Bricktop X PWR]

Am I old and boring, or do others find the ACC on setting 3 still a bit close for comfort?

Update to R46 improves this, stops the slowing of ACC in the bends and gives 1mph increment adjustment.