BP dropping the charging price on ultra fast chargers

[N2STY]

Got email today to say from 1st Feb ultra fast chargers price drop

 

[M101]

I wonder how long this will last?
Going off their old charging prices (£0.80/kwh ) and the poor range of my MG4, it would have been about the same price as driving my very thirsty WRX, so it had completely put me off ever doing a long journey.

 

[slmorgan42]

Fingers crossed this carries over to more companies.

 

[N2STY]

Don't think it was through choice it's part of the Government’s Energy Bill Relief Scheme (EBRS), which was launched to support businesses through the energy crisis.
They have to pass on the savings

 

[M101]

The oil barons have been buying up energy companies for quite a while because they know their black gold has a time limit.
So it very naive to think EV drivers wont be used to claw back their ridiculous profits.

If the average person spends £60 a week at the pumps, then they are likely to end up paying £60 a week to charge their car even if its charged at home,
The new Uk laws on home charging points has now changed and they must be wifi enabled and have a consumption meter. Why would they possibly require this for home chargers, why would it matter how much of my energy goes in to charging my car?
I'll bet my left nut that we end up paying a higher price to charge an EV than we pay for powering our homes or we get an additional tax by the government for each charge

 

[Ruislip Resident]

The oil barons have been buying up energy companies for quite a while because they know their black gold has a time limit.
So it very naive to think EV drivers wont be used to claw back their ridiculous profits.

If the average person spends £60 a week at the pumps, then they are likely to end up paying £60 a week to charge their car even if its charged at home,
The new Uk laws on home charging points has now changed and they must be wifi enabled and have a consumption meter. Why would they possibly require this for home chargers, why would it matter how much of my energy goes in to charging my car?
I'll bet my left nut that we end up paying a higher price to charge an EV than we pay for powering our homes or we get an additional tax by the government for each charge

Charge with a granny cable then.

 

[M101]

I currently do but I'm sure they'll find a way to tax that too.

Energy prices are about to go up again and that's a trend that is not going to stop

 

[Gomev]

I currently do but I'm sure they'll find a way to tax that too.

Energy prices are about to go up again and that's a trend that is not going to stop

Good to hear some positive thoughts on the forum.

I haven't heard anywhere about having a power usage meter in the regulations, but the power used is quite normal if you use an app and has been for ages.. The latest change was for security purposes and the previous changes regarding 'smartness' were in order to assist with flexible grid management so that tariffs such as Intelligent Octopus can be become more the norm, using electricity when low demand or greener.

The EV Smart Charger Regulations & What They Mean | Pod Point

Everything you need to know about the EV smart charge point regulations, including the new default charge schedule and randomised delay.

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[Gomev]

I wonder how long this will last?
Going off their old charging prices (£0.80/kwh ) and the poor range of my MG4, it would have been about the same price as driving my very thirsty WRX, so it had completely put me off ever doing a long journey.

I feel the same about going out to eat, costs far more than cooking at home so it's put me off ever going out.....or has it......

 

[M101]

Its this line that i dont like.
The government never does anything for our convenience, its always for theirs!

 

[M101]

Good to hear some positive thoughts on the forum.

I haven't heard anywhere about having a power usage meter in the regulations, but the power used is quite normal if you use an app and has been for ages.. The latest change was for security purposes and the previous changes regarding 'smartness' were in order to assist with flexible grid management so that tariffs such as Intelligent Octopus can be become more the norm, using electricity when low demand or greener.

The EV Smart Charger Regulations & What They Mean | Pod Point

Everything you need to know about the EV smart charge point regulations, including the new default charge schedule and randomised delay.

pod-point.com

as you have seen in the news recently, energy companies have been screwing people on economy 7 meters by increasing the cost of day time energy.
They dont give anything for nothing, they want maximum profit for the shareholders and all the billions that were earned by oil sales will be transferred to the cost of electricity over the next few years.

As i said earlier, i could drive my very thirsty WRX on a long journey and it would cost about the same in fuel as it would to rapid charge my car, i'd just get there a hell of a lot faster and stop less frequently
I just feel EV drivers are being punished for trying to do the right thing. EV charging should be subsidized for helping to "save the planet"

But going off the way our government keeps repeating history, im sure it wont be long until they offer an EV scrappage scheme when they decide to push us on the hydrogen cars or whatever the next big thing is.
If you think that is far-fetched, they did it with Petrol cars to push on us to diesel and then on diesel to push us back to petrol and now the push is on to EVs.

 

[TheArcher]

Hydrogen cars are not a viable option. Best used for trucks.

 

[M101]

i disagree.
The technology will move on very fast and could easily replace batteries.

 

[Scorpion]

I wonder how long this will last?
Going off their old charging prices (£0.80/kwh ) and the poor range of my MG4, it would have been about the same price as driving my very thirsty WRX, so it had completely put me off ever doing a long journey.

All i can say is that you have a real problem with your car or driving habit if you think it's comparable to a WRX running cost

 

[M101]

I don't drive my MG4 hard but I've never got more than 150 miles out of a charge.
Super charging at £0.80 x 50kwh =£40 and driving my wrx the same way I can get about 120 miles out of £40 so not that much difference.

 

[5teep]

I don't drive my MG4 hard but I've never got more than 150 miles out of a charge.
Super charging at £0.80 x 50kwh =£40 and driving my wrx the same way I can get about 120 miles out of £40 so not that much difference.

Even the smallest 51kwh battery MG4 will get you 220 plus in Summer (220 is my average in the mg5 51kwh). When the temperature hits Zero or below then you'll get ~150 but the range climbs as it gets warmer.

 

[M101]

218 is the claimed range on mine so I'd guess at 180-190 in warmer weather
I live in Lancashire so I have hills and poor weather on most of my journeys

 

[Gomev]

Its this line that i dont like.
The government never does anything for our convenience, its always for theirs!

I've had that on my charging app forever, it tells me how many electrons it has put in, when, and how much it has cost. Nothing to get excited about in that bit.

 

[M101]

One step at a time.
People cant keep paying sky high energy prices forever, but they can a higher price to charge an EV.

Like i said earlier, if someone was putting £100 worth of petrol in their car each week, then they will soon be paying about the same in electricity to charge their car.
The government puts about 80% tax on fuel, so its incredibly naive to think this wont be applied to EV's charging.
They also said EV's were exempt from road tax, and they are..........until 2025, then we all pay about £150 a year

 

[Ruislip Resident]

One step at a time.
People cant keep paying sky high energy prices forever, but they can a higher price to charge an EV.

Like i said earlier, if someone was putting £100 worth of petrol in their car each week, then they will soon be paying about the same in electricity to charge their car.
The government puts about 80% tax on fuel, so its incredibly naive to think this wont be applied to EV's charging.
They also said EV's were exempt from road tax, and they are..........until 2025, then we all pay about £150 a year

Per mile road charging is much more likely. A simple system with a reading once a year rather than anything complicated with cameras, trackers etc, charging differently for where and when you are driving. ICE vehicles will pay it also. All current tolls, bridge fees, tunnel fees, congestion charges etc will continue in addition to this.