Anyone need brake pads yet?

[Bricktop X PWR]

So what do you think of this shameless profiteering from the only MG parts suppplier I could initially find online.


MG4 Front Brake Pads.

Volkswagen Golf GTD Front Brake Pads.

Let's hope we can purchase from Ali Express or such like when required eh?

 

[gazza487]

Such a new car I doubt the aftermarket has an audience yet. They will come in time - I just hope I’m not one of the early ones rather selfishly.

Now for aliexpress etc beware - technically as the importer of brake pads they should have the correct E markings on to comply. Now in the past I’ve had American pads which met DOT standards but not European and they were the quietest, most progressive pads I ever fitted to that vehicle (EU approved would squeal no matter what I did). That is not to say you could end up with garbage and my my I’ve had eBay specials which fell to bits !

 

[Bricktop X PWR]

Such a new car I doubt the aftermarket has an audience yet. They will come in time - I just hope I’m not one of the early ones rather selfishly.

Now for aliexpress etc beware - technically as the importer of brake pads they should have the correct E markings on to comply. Now in the past I’ve had American pads which met DOT standards but not European and they were the quietest, most progressive pads I ever fitted to that vehicle (EU approved would squeal no matter what I did). That is not to say you could end up with garbage and my my I’ve had eBay specials which fell to bits !

Agreed.
God help me when I need X Power pads!
£350-400??

It will get easier/cheaper to get spares I'm sure..........It has to.

You can only be bent over for so long before things need to change. (I'm led to believe)?

 

[Ian Key]

You could get all four corners relined cheaper than that.

 

[Lovemyev]

I shudder to think what the brake discs will be priced at!

 

[Bricktop X PWR]

I shudder to think what the brake discs will be priced at!

We all know It's a monopoly at present but still, there must be people approaching a first set of brake pads this year?

 

[GaryMG4]

We all know It's a monopoly at present but still, there must be people approaching a first set of brake pads this year?

I'd have thought it was unlikely, lots of people reporting minimal wear at 100k miles on various EVs due to regen.

 

[JonnyG]

So what do you think of this shameless profiteering from the only MG parts suppplier I could initially find online.

Another reason I doubt I would buy another MG (much as I love my Xpower) :-

1. Customer Service 1/10
2. Price of Parts 1/10
3. Availablity of parts 1/10

Rant over ??

 

[Lovemyev]

In many cases, the rear pads are replaced not due to the level of wear.
In fact it can be the complete opposite ?.
The pads are replaced when the rear discs become so badly corroded and pitted, that that both discs and pads require replacement.
The pads are then discarded prematurely regardless of their state of condition in relation to wear level.
Regen braking is the main cause in the lack of footbrake required to slow the car down.
The rear brakes on an ICE car do not get the same level of work as the front brakes of course, so add in the regen braking on an EV and the rear brakes are on holiday for most of their lives ?.

 

[Macadoodle]

In many cases, the rear pads are replaced not due to the level of wear.
In fact it can be the complete opposite ?.
The pads are replaced when the rear discs become so badly corroded and pitted, that that both discs and pads require replacement.
The pads are then discarded prematurely regardless of their state of condition in relation to wear level.
Regen braking is the main cause in the lack of footbrake required to slow the car down.
The rear brakes on an ICE car do not get the same level of work as the front brakes of course, so add in the regen braking on an EV and the rear brakes are on holiday for most of their lives ?.

Very true, the rear discs start to look sad very early on, VW made a smart move with the drums on the ID 3.
MOT time is when a lot of us will ripped off for new discs and pads no doubt.

Stand firm and don't take the BS, especially from main dealers. As long as the disc is above minimum thickness with no horrendous groves and the pads have 3mm or more, it meets MOT standards.

 

[Lovemyev]

Very true, the rear discs start to look sad very early on, VW made a smart move with the drums on the ID 3.
MOT time is when a lot of us will ripped off for new discs and pads no doubt.

Stand firm and don't take the BS, especially from main dealers. As long as the disc is above minimum thickness with no horrendous groves and the pads have 3mm or more, it meets MOT standards.

I agree, I made the decision a LONG time ago to never use the main dealers for my MOT requirements, even if it was so called “free”.
There is no such thing as a “free diner” as they say.
A free MOT followed by a phone call to say that you need a grand to replace all discs and pads, is not my idea of a good deal TBH.
Have it tested by a good independent MOT station before submitting to the dealer for its annual service is my favoured choice.
Having owned a number of VW’s in the past, I do like the idea of using drums on the back.

 

[CGYorks]

Yesterday at dealer front pads quoted at 500 and rears 400 but price may change as not supplied any yet…

I would buy those aftermarket pads and get relined by Carbotech..

 

[Bricktop X PWR]

TEEVES.

Just emailed a Chinese SAIC parts specialist for a price.
Will post up when received.

 

[dsimpkins]

Bit of metal bashing, I'll make those Golf brake pads fit!

 

[Anon70]

Maybe the are quoting for a 2005 XPower SV ?

 

[gazza487]

I spotted a few bits including pads on mgtitan.com £86 for a from set and £60something for rears on a rwd. No affiliation, experience or shipping etc but they appear to be made by Ate so maybe someone has some contacts with them ?

 

[CGYorks]

Quote is for MG4 XPower pads

I contacted them and prices are now for pads coming in stock…

 

[Tig170]

The brakes usually come from ATE, TRW etc. and change depending on what they have negotiated (a bit like tyres), eventually we'll find which other cars they are off. Personally I prefer an aggresive pad, and like hawk ceramic, the pads on my Tiguan sport (now with 170000) miles, haven't been changed in around 15 years, 150000 miles ago. Discs last 50000-100000k miles. On the MG4 I'm finding that the rear pads are not aggressive enough (as they rarely get used - use default regen & 3), so have a 2-3cm band of light rust around the outer edge. In the next few weeks I'm going to service them and will decide what to do, one thing I know is that I won't be letting MG look after them.

I spotted a few bits including pads on mgtitan.com £86 for a from set and £60something for rears on a rwd. No affiliation, experience or shipping etc but they appear to be made by Ate so maybe someone has some contacts with them ?

... buy @gazza487 a drink (assuming you're not the real Gazza) - great spot - many thanks

 

[OriginalBigAl]

The brakes usually come from ATE, TRW etc. and change depending on what they have negotiated (a bit like tyres), eventually we'll find which other cars they are off. Personally I prefer an aggresive pad, and like hawk ceramic, the pads on my Tiguan sport (now with 170000) miles, haven't been changed in around 15 years, 150000 miles ago. Discs last 50000-100000k miles. On the MG4 I'm finding that the rear pads are not aggressive enough (as they rarely get used - use default regen & 3), so have a 2-3cm band of light rust around the outer edge. In the next few weeks I'm going to service them and will decide what to do, one thing I know is that I won't be letting MG look after them.

To help clean up the rear discs, find a quiet hill and let it roll backwards in neutral varying the amount of braking. As the leading brakes with a bit of extra weight on them they will have to work harder and of course no re-gen.

 

[Kithmo]

To help clean up the rear discs, find a quiet hill and let it roll backwards in neutral varying the amount of braking. As the leading brakes with a bit of extra weight on them they will have to work harder and of course no re-gen.

Why neutral ?
If you roll the car in N then you're isolating the HV battery from the wheels, the current generated by the rotation of the motor has nowhere to go so it can damage the controller/inverter circuitry.
From the manual re-towing:
"DO NOT tow the vehicle with any of the driving wheels in contact with the road surface, this will avoid electric drive transmission damage. When it is necessary to temporarily push or tow the vehicle from a dangerous situation or onto the transporter, the speed must remain below 3 mph and be completed with in 3 minutes."