Consumption

[Rolfe]

I genuinely don't get this pre-heat the car. Especially as your journey is just 3 miles. But who am I to criticise what you do with your own car.
It is just an observation.

I love it. With my Golf I turned everything on including the heated seats but I'd driven ten miles before the car was warm enough for me to stop shivering. Getting straight into a warm car is absolute luxury.

Also, I had a passenger last night, so I was showing off.

 

[dsimpkins]

I love it. With my Golf I turned everything on including the heated seats but I'd driven ten miles before the car was warm enough for me to stop shivering. Getting straight into a warm car is absolute luxury.

Also, I had a passenger last night, so I was showing off.

I love the preheat function. No more scraping ice off windscreens. Just wish you could schedule it. Have to set a reminder on my phone to do it, so I don't forget.

 

[Rolfe]

I love the preheat function. No more scraping ice off windscreens. Just wish you could schedule it. Have to set a reminder on my phone to do it, so I don't forget.

I just do it when I'm getting ready to go out. By the time I've put my shoes on and got my bits and pieces together it's warm enough.

 

[dsimpkins]

I just do it when I'm getting ready to go out. By the time I've put my shoes on and got my bits and pieces together it's warm enough.

Reminder set to go off while I'm eating my cereal in the morning.

 

[Archev]

Reminder set to go off while I'm eating my cereal in the morning.

Delete cereal, have porridge, drive cosy ?

 

[Ian Key]

I genuinely don't get this pre-heat the car. Especially as your journey is just 3 miles. But who am I to criticise what you do with your own car.
It is just an observation.

I think Rolfe means she is pre-heating the cabin not the battery.

 

[Claire]

i live on a warm Caribbean island with only city traffic. I am at 17.4 kWh/100 km, guess the air conditioning takes more energy.

Would swap your warm Caribbean island for my cold ? and wet Scotland ????????

 

[ukslim]

Oh, I'm going through charge like nothing on earth right now. Every evening. Pre-heat car. Drive three miles. Stay there (music activities in the village hall in a neighbouring hamlet) for a couple of hours. Pre-heat car again. Drive three miles home. Yesterday that took 9% of the battery. Same routine scheduled for tonight and tomorrow night and Friday night.

I don't care, I love it.

It does seem as if what REALLY kills m/kWh is very short journeys in the cold. A few trips like that and your range estimate plummets. But then when you make a longer journey, things recover. As you drive, the battery warms up, and starts performing again.

 

[Kithmo]

It does seem as if what REALLY kills m/kWh is very short journeys in the cold. A few trips like that and your range estimate plummets. But then when you make a longer journey, things recover. As you drive, the battery warms up, and starts performing again.

What puzzles me though is why the 4 is so much worse than the ZS at this.
My old 2020 ZS used to do 110-120 miles on a charge in Winter short journeys 160 in Summer, a loss of 25%
Same journey in the 4 and I'm lucky to get 140 miles usually it's nearer 120, that's a loss of nearer 50%.

 

[Rolfe]

I think Rolfe means she is pre-heating the cabin not the battery.

Uh, yes. I've never pre-heated the battery. The car was in the garage so not iced-up, but if it had been I'd certainly not have wanted to drive off unable to see through the windscreen for frost! Not even for three miles.

It does seem as if what REALLY kills m/kWh is very short journeys in the cold. A few trips like that and your range estimate plummets. But then when you make a longer journey, things recover. As you drive, the battery warms up, and starts performing again.

It totally does, although the worst 100% range estimate I've seen on the app has been 145 miles. But if you're only doing short journeys it doesn't matter, because you just plug in when you get home.

The six-mile round trip at sub-zero temperatures with two goes at heating the car seems to be using 9% of battery. I got back on 82% last night, third go tonight.

 

[hharzel]

Consumption's stuck to a little over 30kWh/100km for some time now, thanks to cold weather. Can't really say because the value is capped to 29.8kWh/100km, maybe some wise dude at MG thought it would seem more efficient that way, lol.

I wouldn't even think about not preheating the battery and not using intelligent battery heater when it's below -30 degrees celsius outside for the sake of its health. Anyway, never had problems starting the car and there have been zero issues in extreme cold, despite range dropping over 50%.

 

[Rapax]

Does anyone know what is real highway consumption on 110km/h? My obd ABRP say 19.5 for my 77 ER trophy. What is your results?

 

[fnegroni]

The consumption figures reported on the instrument cluster are correct, so you can find out yourself by resetting the trip meter and sitting at 110kph for a couple of miles. Make sure you account for wind, humidity, heat, road surface temperature, tyre pressure and temperature, elevation gain/loss, etc.
Use the speed limiter not ACC and you should get the figures you are looking for.

 

[salty]

Don't know, don't care, I just charge it when it needs it. Simple's. I'm too busy enjoying it. ??

 

[Rapax]

Don't know, don't care, I just charge it when it needs it. Simple's. I'm to busy enjoying it. ??

Yes, if you drive in the city 99% of the time. Consumption is important because of the range on the highway, that's why I want to know what others get. I have changed the factory wheels with another set with all season tire, and I don't have the car that long to know for sure if consumption is exactly the same, bigger or lower ?
For now it looks the same.

 

[NLMGSAN]

Does anyone know what is real highway consumption on 110km/h? My obd ABRP say 19.5 for my 77 ER trophy. What is your results?

Conditions? The ER is very vulnarable of wind, temp and rain. Yesterday the T did not exceed 11 degrees in the morning. Avg consumption was about 16.9 /100 km. Average 60kph.
Today with 21 degrees and same road (though slower) I managed 13.9 kWh/100 km. Ok, Speed was only 70 on average and slow traffic reduced energy consumption.

 

[Rapax]

It was 19°C yesterday. Yup, wind influence much. ABRP measure consumption on 110kmh with their measurement system and I seen it is perfect guess.
Also I measured consumption on autohold, and just with fan without A/C. Autohold consumes 100W, same as fan ?

 

[Tuareg]

Yes, if you drive in the city 99% of the time. Consumption is important because of the range on the highway, that's why I want to know what others get. I have changed the factory wheels with another set with all season tire, and I don't have the car that long to know for sure if consumption is exactly the same, bigger or lower ?
For now it looks the same.

Surely 'consumption' will be different for each driver as driving habits will always be different and will be reflected in the range for any car, ICE or EV. Same goes for how many kms you get on a specific type of tyre or brake pads etc. Even weather, wind, temp etc will be different in different regions/countries etc.

 

[salty]

Surely 'consumption' will be different for each driver as driving habits will always be different and will be reflected in the range for any car, ICE or EV. Same goes for how many kms you get on a specific type of tyre or brake pads etc. Even weather, wind, temp etc will be different in different regions/countries etc.

Exactly! So why even bother. Just enjoy your motor. ??

 

[HazardLights]

Exactly! So why even bother. Just enjoy your motor. ??

I think considering efficiency and how to have the vehicle and battery ready for the best performance does make sense if preparing for a long journey at motorway speeds in winter where a bit of optimisation can make a big difference. However if charging stops are plentiful and one doesn't care about price this too can be ignored.

Personality is a key variable and many people would put less thought into modest decisions, for example...

I am currently fretting over whether to charge my NMC to 100% so I don't have to stop and charge at silly rates and can complete a round trip without trying to find a Charge Place Scotland charger at my destination that works and isn't ICEd. It's about 10 days early for my first 100% charge but I think I'll do it now rather than on schedule but when I have no journeys that actually would benefit from it.