Unfixable MG4 Trophy?

Not convinced by this!

But the Renault Scenic (which may also have lots of foibles and idiosyncrasies) has a "turn everything I want off in one go" button, which is intriguing.
All the new Renaults do. Some other makers do a similar thing, it is the way forward - at least until EuroNCAP make disabling the systems impossible.
 
All the new Renaults do. Some other makers do a similar thing, it is the way forward - at least until EuroNCAP make disabling the systems impossible.
NCAP does not have the authority to enforce this. It is a testing organisation. The mandatory 'on' thing is a legislation thingie. In the EU, the have it written down in a regulation, which it is applicable from the day it was signed by Ursula in all EU countries.
 
I won't buy a Tesla because of Musk, no intention of supporting him whatsover. I'll support the Chinese all day long by comparison and as a by product impact's Musk's bottom line.
 
NCAP does not have the authority to enforce this. It is a testing organisation. The mandatory 'on' thing is a legislation thingie. In the EU, the have it written down in a regulation, which it is applicable from the day it was signed by Ursula in all EU countries.
EuroNCAP are driving the future direction and making the proposals and then the laws follow. You may be technically correct but it is very clear who is setting the agenda and I am not going to stop saying it.

Edit: Plus, of course, it doesn't have to be law for manufacturers to follow, most consider a high NCAP rating to be essential so will comply anyway and not want the costs of differentiating for other markets where the testing rulesay be different.
 
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They have no idea why it will not calibrate. It starts and runs, but, apparently pulls to the left! None of the driver assistance aids work.
I would bring the equivalent of the vehicle repair council in on the problem and the insurance company and lease company to answer questions as to why an unfit to drive repair has been signed off as satisfactorily completed to a safe and pre accident condition ...... maybe MG as well for the original cause of the accident ....... someone will fold and accept the vehicle is unfit to be returned to the road and written off .... then legal people can get your lease payments returned for the period the vehicle was not safe to be driven ......

T1 Terry
 
EuroNCAP are driving the future direction and making the proposals and then the laws follow. You may be technically correct but it is very clear who is setting the agenda and I am not going to stop saying it.
In fact, they are not. From a legal perspective. In the US, it is the NHTSA, in the EU there is UNECE with the EU itself. Other countries have their own regulatory bodies.
In theory, this can lead to different minimum requirements with different regional NCAP's (US, EU, NZ, AU). But they usually stick to one set of requirements.

NCAP is contracted to test minimum requirements as defined by laws. On top of that they have additional criteria defined with several govermental and consumer organisations. This is the five star rating.

The problem is two fold: the test procedure is not rigid enough (they admitted this), and they add requirements that are not mandatory but are strongly dictated by their own 'body of knowledge'. On top of that, all points scored add up.

The added requirements create commercial pressure on the brands to 'comply to NCAP 5 star ratings'. But it is not mandatory.

The solution is:
1.Connect an NCAP test score to a maximum of 3 stars to show compliance to laws only (minimal requirements).
2.Added features can be used to gain extra points/stars, under the condition that compliance is met as defined in 1).
3. Vastly improve test validity.
 
I won't buy a Tesla because of Musk, no intention of supporting him whatsover. I'll support the Chinese all day long by comparison and as a by product impact's Musk's bottom line.
I'd buy a used one, that way you aren't supporting Elon (like he'd notice anyway) and it has already depreciated, so when the whole house of cards collapses (all Ponzi schemes eventually collapse) and all the mobs he has been borrowing from against his Ponzi net worth, get their fingers burnt and do due diligence in the future ....... and the shareholders of every company involved will get revenge, even if they take a financial hit.

It is all the suckers that have invested their life savings into the Pozi scheme I feel sorry for, just like all these get rich quick schemes, the little players pay the most

T1 Terry
 
I would bring the equivalent of the vehicle repair council in on the problem and the insurance company and lease company to answer questions as to why an unfit to drive repair has been signed off as satisfactorily completed to a safe and pre accident condition ...... maybe MG as well for the original cause of the accident ....... someone will fold and accept the vehicle is unfit to be returned to the road and written off .... then legal people can get your lease payments returned for the period the vehicle was not safe to be driven ......

T1 Terry
I hope so, Terry.
 
I got stuck once in some awful Groundhog Day with my Xantia that needed repairing after a side swipe.

The bodyshop consistently got two things wrong, an area of the door skin on the rear door and that clear sticker thing that went on the wheel arch/ sill.

The skin was rippled and the paint drippy and the plastic thing had oily fingerprints on it. When they failed several times, they gave up and sent it back without one.

It literally went back 5 or 6 times.

I got some repair organisation the garage were members of involved and two really serious blokes came round with a whole car load of gear and camera equipment.

They started by measuring the paint thickness all over the car and nearly all were very similar, but the repaired areas were many many times that. They explained that, instead of the garage rubbing down the paint, they had just sprayed over each time they had redone the repair

They said they hadn't properly got creases out of the door skin, coupled with paint defects, and they couldn't imagine how anyone could pass the car fit for return with oily fingerprints on the clear plasticky thing not just once but several times!

The ordered the car to be repaired by another bodyshop under their umbrella, to have all the thick paintwork rubbed down, a new door fitted, resprayed and a new oil-free plastic thing stuck on.

And remarkably, when they came back to me to check the repair, the paintwork was all within acceptable limits and very similar to the original paintwork.
 
Well it is now exactly six months that my Trophy has been at the dealer’s service department. They say they have done all they can and it is still not fixed. They are soon getting a new mechanic, who is supposed to be the dog’s bollocks, and they are hoping that he will have a new perspective on what is wrong with the calibration. Frankly, at this point, I never want to see the car again. I’m still paying insurance, lease payments and (soon) road tax. I spoke to one solicitor that said their fees would be greater than it is worth it for me! I have no idea what to do. How do I go about rejecting the car? Obviously the warranty must apply. Help anyone, please? Surely I have some rights here?

I would never consider the current Teslas: the ride quality is too poor, much like the Polestar. The best saloon is the i4.
The ride quality of the new model 3 is great; better than the MG and better than the Polestar. I have driven all three.
 
Well it is now exactly six months that my Trophy has been at the dealer’s service department. They say they have done all they can and it is still not fixed. They are soon getting a new mechanic, who is supposed to be the dog’s bollocks, and they are hoping that he will have a new perspective on what is wrong with the calibration. Frankly, at this point, I never want to see the car again. I’m still paying insurance, lease payments and (soon) road tax. I spoke to one solicitor that said their fees would be greater than it is worth it for me! I have no idea what to do. How do I go about rejecting the car? Obviously the warranty must apply. Help anyone, please? Surely I have some rights here?
Are you by chance a member of Which? ?

They have a legal department that may be able to help.

Or have you legal cover on your household insurance?
 
Unfortunately that seems to be the case with some MG dealerships, that's why I train myself & get dealer access for any car I buy
I kinda wish I knew Chinese as I could watch the training videos
I feel sorry for anyone that has to rely on them
I know they're unhappy with their data that's available and that people work on their own cars but if they weren't so useless people wouldn't

If I was you I'd contact the lease company and say you wanted to cancel the lease and a refund for not providing a useable car that you've been paying for, they'll have insurance for this kinda thing
 
This is what my AI found:

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This is what my AI found:

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Can you please show the rest of the article?

Unfortunately that seems to be the case with some MG dealerships, that's why I train myself & get dealer access for any car I buy
I kinda wish I knew Chinese as I could watch the training videos
I feel sorry for anyone that has to rely on them
I know they're unhappy with their data that's available and that people work on their own cars but if they weren't so useless people wouldn't

If I was you I'd contact the lease company and say you wanted to cancel the lease and a refund for not providing a useable car that you've been paying for, they'll have insurance for this kinda thing
Lease company have refused to do anything.
 

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