All season tyre choices

What do you think the stock tyres are?

I'd like the best I can get on a budget, but I still expect to get something better than it currently has.

Maybe £400 for tyres is no longer realistic with today's inflation / prices, is that what you are telling me?
The original tyres retail at £150 each

C rating for rolling resistance and noisy compared to others.

And still more than £100 per corner
At £100 or less per corner you ask for many more compromises.

Nothing against Kumho tyres btw, some of their models have great reviews. As do Hankook.
 
The original tyres retail at £150 each
Where? Mine are Chinese market tyres, not available here and not the same as Euro spec equivalents.

C rating for rolling resistance and noisy compared to others.

And still more than £100 per corner
At £100 or less per corner you ask for many more compromises.

Nothing against Kumho tyres btw, some of their models have great reviews. As do Hankook.
Well obviously cheaper tyres won't be as good as more expensive ones. I think you are fear-mongering.

I don't see the point in a tyre upgrade when I have been driving around happily on these for coming up to 2 years.
 
Where? Mine are Chinese market tyres, not available here and not the same as Euro spec equivalents.
The PremiumContact C are exclusively manufactured in China
You can buy them retail at Kwik Fit
Now with discounts
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Well obviously cheaper tyres won't be as good as more expensive ones. I think you are fear-mongering.

I don't see the point in a tyre upgrade when I have been driving around happily on these for coming up to 2 years.
I’m not saying cheaper tyres are not as good as more expensive
I’m saying less than £100 is way too little

The Turanza 6 Enliten is a vastly superior tyre for £10 a corner more (after discount) than the Kumho
the B rating for rolling resistance is very likely on par with the original Conti’s because, well, I had them both.
this is the European made model.
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Mine came with Kumho Solus from factory with 16 inch steelies. I'm not sure on which model/spec they were but I guess Made in China. I don't like allseasons and have seperate winter/summer tyres on all cars.

Dry weather handling is ok as long as you dont push boundaries but braking distance and abs activation is surely more than my winter setup Goodyear UltraGrip tyres, especially on rainy weather the Kumho's are barely acceptable and rear traction control cuts power till like 90kmh when flat out.

For winter times Goodyear hasn't yet left me stranded on icy/snowy roads and given they were significantly cheaper then michelins it might be the best price/performance tyre.

I will get a year or two out of the Kumho's if they last, then buy a new set of 17" wheels and decide what tyres to get by then.
 
The Turanza 6 Enliten is a vastly superior tyre for £10 a corner more (after discount) than the Kumho
the B rating for rolling resistance is very likely on par with the original Conti’s because, well, I had them both.
this is the European made model.
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So, I think what I am hearing is:
  • The stock tyres are not as cheap as I think they are.
  • Paying £100 per tyre is much too little for 2024, that is budget territory.
  • Spending around £140-£160 is needed for a quality tyre and this isn't much more than the stock tyres either.
  • For maximum safety, why cut corners on tyres?

I am open to being persuaded here.
 
So, I think what I am hearing is:
  • The stock tyres are not as cheap as I think they are.
  • Paying £100 per tyre is much too little for 2024, that is budget territory.
  • Spending around £140-£160 is needed for a quality tyre and this isn't much more than the stock tyres either.
  • For maximum safety, why cut corners on tyres?

I am open to being persuaded here.
Yep, you go round in circles til you get tyred.
 
So, I think what I am hearing is:
  • The stock tyres are not as cheap as I think they are.
  • Paying £100 per tyre is much too little for 2024, that is budget territory.
  • Spending around £140-£160 is needed for a quality tyre and this isn't much more than the stock tyres either.
  • For maximum safety, why cut corners on tyres?

I am open to being persuaded here.
In my experience selling tyres here in Australia for a few years, OEM fitted tyres are never a great financial choice. The tyre manufacturer sells the tyres cheap (or maybe even at a small loss?) to get them fitted as standard, then bump up the price on the retail side of things hoping consumers just get “what’s on the car now, thanks” and so still make good on their initial investment.

It always pays to check out other tyres, even if you are really happy with a brand, look at some of their other designs.

Sometimes it’s even worse when cars come out with a very specific size, I think the older model BMW X5 had such massive tyres on the back they would retail for nearly $1000 for the rear axle, and that was the one budget tyre brand that made them. Otherwise you were stuck with the OEM Continentals and boy did they make sure they got the cost back for running a single size line just for this BMW…

Also, to get back on topic a bit, mid range priced tyres often perform very close to your A-brand tyres, they just don’t have the name and the marketing so the price is a bit lower. Are Michelins the best tyres out there? Probably yes, but do they charge you for being Michelins? Totally yes.

Good middle of the road brands (here in Aussie anyway) are Kumho, Toyo, Falken, Hankook. Of course this is all based on summer tyres for me, we don’t have a need for winter or all season tyres on the West Coast
 
Fairly sure I’m settled on the Michelins now. One final thing - do I need to tell the tyre place anything in particular in relation to the pressure monitoring? Wondering if they need to use specific valves etc.
 
Fairly sure I’m settled on the Michelins now. One final thing - do I need to tell the tyre place anything in particular in relation to the pressure monitoring? Wondering if they need to use specific valves etc.
If you are going to a tyre shop, they should know more than you do already, no need to teach them how to do their job, especially since if they don't know what they are doing, you telling them will make zero difference at that point. 😬

What I have done though, is label each tyre valve with FR, FL, RR, RL to double check once I got the car back from a service (not a tyre replacement) that they hadn't accidentally swapped wheels, since mechanics are less likely to be familiar with that.
 
Fairly sure I’m settled on the Michelins now. One final thing - do I need to tell the tyre place anything in particular in relation to the pressure monitoring? Wondering if they need to use specific valves etc.
You can mention it just so they have no reason to accidentally snap your sensors. Some mechanics like letting the air out by snapping the valve out of the rim (you can do that with tpms valves, but only once).

It’s a little annoying that the MG4 appears not to know which sensor has moved where, so you could ask them to put the rims back on the same corner if possible. Like fnegroni said marking the rims or valves might be worth it.

Alternatively maybe the tyre shop has a device that can talk to the car/sensors and update the car as to which sensor is where now.
 
Me too - won’t buy Pirelli’s again.
Have we all suffered from P6000's?

I've run vredstein, bridgestone and michelin all-seasons on our cars over the last few years. Prior to that used to swap winters/summers.

I think many people dont appreciate how good all seasons are these days.
The michelins were the best, the vredsteins were I think a mild winter tyre rebadged (again many dont realise that there are many grades of winter tyre sold in northern europe/scandinavia)

On the michelins Ive got through roads where 4x4s have been stranded.

Currently wavering about buying some - our mg is down to 4.5mm on its original michelin primacy, but I'm sure they are a chinese made version because I've never been very happy with them in the wet
 
Mine are coming up in the new year for replacement.

But I am not paying £650 for Cross Climate 2s (Black Circles price today).

Where I live, I don’t need all seasons, summer tyres are fine. Any recommendations for best choice for £100/tyre or less? (17 inch wheels on my Trophy).
Uniroyal Rainsport are excellent and better value than PS4s which I’d say would be better on the Xpower.
 
I fitted a pair of Verstein Q Winters to the front of my MG5 last year and have just put them on again. Sadly Kwikfit charged me £60 to swap them over. Next time I’ll be putting the money towards new ones.
 
Daft question maybe but why not on the Xpower?

Because I won't compromise on the pure performance aspect that I want from a tyre.

The PS5's are superb at everything except grip in Snowy conditions.

Not surprising really as they are summer tyres.

This is not an issue as being retired I can simply decide not to go out if it gets too slippery, besides I can't even leave in the Snow because I have to go up a hill on the way out!

The Cross Climates are outstanding in all conditions except outright pure performance.

They flew up my hill with several inches of Snow and just front wheel drive.
Also astounding amounts of grip in wet and greasy conditions.

When I fitted the PS5's I was planning several track days.

This has never happened due to various factors, the main one being I just don't think the effort would be worth it.

Who knows, I might even fit CC's then next time!
 
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I know there are some threads on here regarding tyres, but thought a current, all-seasons thread would be useful.

That being said, anyone know what the best options are for the MG4? I see the following:

Michelin Cross Climate 2
Bridgestone Turanza All Season 6
Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons (Gen 2 or 3)
Hankook Kinergy 4S
Continental All Season Contact 2
Avon AS7 All Season

I’m sure there are others, but these seem to be the main competitors.

I’ve personally had great experiences with Goodyear on ICE cars, albeit not all season tyres, and I also had good experiences with Hankook on ICE cars. On the MG4, I have no idea, other than what I do know is the stock tyres have become totally useless in the colder weather - the rear end has stepped out on me more times than I can remember, and all too often on roundabouts at low speed!

The car is quickly becoming like Bambi on ice skates!

Anyone with some experience of any of the above, or other tyres? Want something that grips pretty well, but isn’t so soft that I’m changing them in another 8-10k miles, as that’s happened to me in the past on an ICE car.

The stock tyres have lasted well over 20k, but I’ve stuck with them, rather than liked them. They don’t fill me full of confidence, especially on wet, cold roads.
I've got Michelin Primacy on my 2021 ZS and have done 31500mls. Still about 3mm depth
 
I've always thought this site was a useful one to help choose tyres.
I’m in rural Scotland and used the winter tyre review to choose what winter tyres for our All4 Mini Countryman. Means we could still go out and about in the snow, and could U turn and go home when we reached all the stuck cars blocking the road 😊.

First thing we did with our MG4 was put All Weather Michelin Cross Climate 2 on it last October, we've done just over 12,000 miles since then, including 2 weeks around Asturias, North Spain this July. There is still a healthy amount of tread left. I would have been able to tell you how they performed in snow as we have 6” of that today. But the kids party we were going to travel to was cancelled due to powercuts.
 

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