EV opposition in the media is ramping up

[Shrink Proof]

Let's see the deniers extraordinary evidence, because the evidence available clearly shows a deisel Land Rover on fire.

Well, yeah, right... but I mean, yer can prove anything with facts, can't yer?

 

[Rolfe]

Carl Sagan once said; "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence".

Let's see the deniers extraordinary evidence, because the evidence available clearly shows a deisel Land Rover on fire. If it isn't the deisel burning, a liquid used for that very property, then they will have to present actual evidence of what it was that was burning.

Maybe he was carrying ethanol, methylated spirit, parrafin, or some other flammable liquid in the boot. Highly unlikely, but the deniers have to prove it and explain how it caught fire.

They're missing the point (which is nevertheless well explained in the John Cadogan video!) that it isn't the diesel that starts the fire. It's a faulty battery, a short circuit, dry leaves caught alongside something really hot under the car, that sort of thing. There's plenty in there to burn, plastics and so on, before you even get to the upholstery. Eventually the car turns into an inferno that heats the fuel tank to such an extent that it leaks or explodes and hot burning diesel is everywhere.

Then neighbouring petrol cars catch fire and the same thing happens, and exploding petrol tanks are not a safe thing to be near.

 

[Archev]

Well, yeah, right... but I mean, yer can prove anything with facts, can't yer?

Aye that’s a fact

 

[Rolfe]

This is just getting ridiculous. Myth after myth after myth, and a presenter who is clearly biassed.



I was blissfully unaware of any of this six months ago. I'd only heard good things about EVs from people who were running them. Given that I have a good power supply to my garage and the nearest petrol station is nine miles away it seemed like a no-brainer, particularly when I discovered the MG4 - exactly what I wanted, and within my price range. I just basically went out and bought one!

I was slightly bemused by the warmth of the congratulations I was getting from various friends, as if I'd done something good, but rather daring. Well, we live and learn.

 

[Tommy]

This is just getting ridiculous. Myth after myth after myth, and a presenter who is clearly biassed.



I was blissfully unaware of any of this six months ago. I'd only heard good things about EVs from people who were running them. Given that I have a good power supply to my garage and the nearest petrol station is nine miles away it seemed like a no-brainer, particularly when I discovered the MG4 - exactly what I wanted, and within my price range. I just basically went out and bought one!

I was slightly bemused by the warmth of the congratulations I was getting from various friends, as if I'd done something good, but rather daring. Well, we live and learn.

Wow, she's a bit thick isn't she ... ?

 

[Archev]

Wow, she's a bit thick isn't she ... ?

perhaps well reimbursed with slightly oily fivers ??

 

[Rolfe]

I went to the hifi shop last week and (stupidly) said something about the Luton car park fire to the owner. I was met with a mad anti-EV rant about how they're dangerous and bad for the environment and probably cause cancer and piles as well.

I don't know why people get so aerated about this. He would have seen the green flash on Caliban's number-plate when we went out of the shop together. Hmmm.

 

[Archev]

Good for you. I couldn't stand it!

I had a discussion with a woman after church on Sunday, someone I've known for a long time. I don't know how we got on to the subject, but she started coming out with all the DM fallacies. I said, you're reading too much Daily Mail. She said she never reads it, and I believe her. She's not the type. I think she has been listening to people who do read the Daily Mail, or people who have been listening to people who read the Daily Mail, etc. The narrative spreads well beyond the actual readers of the paper.

EVs are terribly polluting. They're really bad for the roads. The batteries catch fire and explode. Charging is a nightmare. And the rest. Her family has three cars, but sometimes all three need to do long journeys at the same time so they couldn't even manage with one EV. (I think they're loaded, actually, no reason they couldn't go for a really long range model.)

The idea of putting a canopy over the village charge-point (which is just in front of the church) had her up in arms. I totally missed a trick, I should have asked her if she was against the wooden bus shelter that's about 50 yards further down the road. Because that's all it would take.

Some people.

Oh heck if I was that lady I’d be more worried that wooden bus shelter could spontaneously ignite during an electrical storm ?

 

[Gadget Geek]

Wow, she's a bit thick isn't she ... ?

That's GB News for you . . . The TV version of the Daily Fail. Quentin was as controlled as ever in his responses.

 

[Rolfe]

Oh heck if I was that lady I’d be more worried that wooden bus shelter could spontaneously ignite during an electrical storm ?

What really needs to happen is for that bus shelter, which is entirely unnecessary as the route terminates about 200 yards further on, to be uprooted and moved 40 yards upstream to shelter the charge-point.

Maybe some dark night...

 

[Gadget Geek]

perhaps well reimbursed with slightly oily fivers ??

Which is where she is getting the old myths she's regurgitating.

 

[tsedge]

I went to the hifi shop last week and (stupidly) said something about the Luton car park fire to the owner. I was met with a mad anti-EV rant about how they're dangerous and bad for the environment and probably cause cancer and piles as well.

I don't know why people get so aerated about this. He would have seen the green flash on Caliban's number-plate when we went out of the shop together. Hmmm.

He wouldn't probably know what green on a number plate means.

 

[Tonych]

https://bit.ly/45AbM8U - GB news item from Stop Burning Stuff - good to see some push back!

 

[siteguru]

Looks like you need to be a Patreon subscriber to StopBS to be able to view that.

 

[JimD]

Al Gore is like a climate action messiah trying to rally the troops. Might be a good watch if you don't mind the 'interview' format and need to get your climate mojo back.

 

[Rolfe]

He wouldn't probably know what green on a number plate means.

Good point. I didn't myself until I saw it on Caliban's number plate when I took delivery.

 

[Tonych]

Looks like you need to be a Patreon subscriber to StopBS to be able to view that.

I'm not - found a way to open in YouTube

 

[Rolfe]

Looks like you need to be a Patreon subscriber to StopBS to be able to view that.

It's this clip from GB News, and discussion about it.



They tweeted out the link in clear this morning, and I posted it above.

Al Gore is like a climate action messiah trying to rally the troops. Might be a good watch if you don't mind the 'interview' format and need to get your climate mojo back.

He's very good. It's a shame he never got to be President.

 

[Roldorf]

A little bit of background on GB News:
The channel is described as right leaning on political issues. It is jointly owned by hedge fund manager Sir Paul Marshall
Sir Paul Marshall: the son of Alan Marshall, managing director, Philippine Refining Company.

I would guess that says it all.

 

[Tommy]

Yep, follow the money ...