First time long trip with my Zs Ev Trophy long range

[Muffin]

I thought I would ask the experts as I’m a real novice on EV
Around trip of 200 miles in one day without charging. I just wonder with the air on on full blast and radio on how much energy I would be using traveling average speed about 50 mph

 

[Deleted member 9196]

Radio takes next to nothing. AC nowhere near as much as people imagine, perhaps 10 miles or so. Work on the basis of 3.5 miles/kWh and you'll probably be fine.

 

[Muffin]

Radio takes next to nothing. AC nowhere near as much as people imagine, perhaps 10 miles or so. Work on the basis of 3.5 miles/kWh and you'll probably be fine.

Thanks moose it’s nice to tap into knowledge on this Forum . Not sure about eco normal or sport probably will stay on normal

 

[Deleted member 9196]

Thanks moose it’s nice to tap into knowledge on this Forum . Not sure about eco normal or sport probably will stay on normal

Eco restricts power to the AC, so perhaps not in today's weather!

 

[Muffin]

Eco restricts power to the AC, so perhaps not in today's weather!

Thanks again can’t see me going on sports mode but Imagine motorway driving may be best to use it then

 

[MichaelJHunt]

Apart from reducing the power used by the AC System, ECO has no real advantage over any of the other modes. It is your right foot that determines your range.

 

[Merry]

I've seen 3.5 mls/kWh with an average speed of 60mph on a run from Wigan to Teeside. The weather was quite a bit colder too. Something like 15° off the top of my head. That's probably a safe figure to assume.

That was in normal. Sport would probably be the same. I find it makes little difference.

 

[Muffin]

Thanks for all the advice

 

[Lovemyev]

The warmer weather and a lighter right foot will help you out !.
Snapped this photo only yesterday, before resetting both of my trip counters.

 

[Deleted member 8269]

I thought I would ask the experts as I’m a real novice on EV
Around trip of 200 miles in one day without charging. I just wonder with the air on on full blast and radio on how much energy I would be using traveling average speed about 50 mph

I did a 210 miles motorway journey (in my MG5 LR) the other day (no charging) and found the below info very accurate. The AC does make a difference but only a small amount Vs using the heater or driving style or cold/wet weather, which affect range much more.

Check this 2 links out:

Driving Efficiency Guide

One of the perks of driving an EV is the instant power whenever you want it, but there are times, perhaps when you are pushing to maximise the range, that you want to drive as efficiently as you can....

www.mgevownersclub.co.uk

Charging your MG

Owning an electric vehicle is a completely different experience from owning an ICE car (internal combustion engine.) If you have a driveway, or a garage y ou can charge at home, so no more trips...

www.mgevownersclub.co.uk

 

[MikeN]

Eco restricts power to the AC, so perhaps not in today's weather!

I stay in Eco, not freezing cold but we find comfortable enough. It’s personal preference.

 

[Thebiglad]

Eco restricts power to the AC, so perhaps not in today's weather!

Hi Moose, I'm curious,, where did you get that piece of info from, because on my gen 1 ZS EV there is no apparent difference in AC performance if I switch between N and Eco ??

 

[Lovemyev]

In Eco mode it reduces either the heat provided to the cabin in the winter or the strength of A/C for cool air in the summer.
Eco mode is designed to save on range, the heater and the A/C are greedy on the miles !.
Normal and Sport mode gives full heat or full chill to the r cabin.
It’s the same in all EV’s !..

 

[Kithmo]

Hi Moose, I'm curious,, where did you get that piece of info from, because on my gen 1 ZS EV there is no apparent difference in AC performance if I switch between N and Eco ??

Funny you should say that, contrary to popular opinion (and the manual) mine doesn't seem any different in eco or normal.
SWMBO's MG5 there is a significant difference.

 

[Lovemyev]

It just depends on the level of heat / cooling you require.
If you require either MAX heat or MAX cooling, you will not achieve either using ECO mode.
ECO mode is intended to maximise the available remaining range, economising on any high loads demands from either the traction motor or the HVAC system.
Therefore power to the traction motor is reduced by dampening the power available at the "GO" pedal and HVAC system are prevented from performing at 100% to save on the range.
These actions go hand in hand with the reduction of power to the drive wheels.
If you wanted to preserve your range, you would not use SPORT mode, drive like you stole the car, with the HVAC going flat out for example.

 

[Kithmo]

It just depends on the level of heat / cooling you require.
If you require either MAX heat or MAX cooling, you will not achieve either using ECO mode.
ECO mode is intended to maximise the available remaining range, economising on any high loads demands from either the traction motor or the HVAC system.
Therefore power to the traction motor is reduced by dampening the power available at the "GO" pedal and HVAC system are prevented from performing at 100% to save on the range.
These actions go hand in hand with the reduction of power to the drive wheels.
If you wanted to preserve your range, you would not use SPORT mode, drive like you stole the car, with the HVAC going flat out for example.

That makes sense, my demand on the HVAC is usually low anyway.
In Winter, after an initial defrost and demist for 5 minutes, I have the heater and fan on 3 blobs.
In summer I have the AC on to the extent that the air coming out of the vents just feels colder than ambient. I guess I maybe can't tell the subtle difference at these low demands.

 

[Harry]

The warmer weather and a lighter right foot will help you out !.
Snapped this photo only yesterday, before resetting both of my trip counters.

View attachment 9669

Indicates total range = 287 miles. Cool! (Or should that be hot??)

 

[MGRick]

I did a 210 miles motorway journey (in my MG5 LR) the other day (no charging) and found the below info very accurate. The AC does make a difference but only a small amount Vs using the heater or driving style or cold/wet weather, which affect range much more.

Check this 2 links out:

Driving Efficiency Guide

One of the perks of driving an EV is the instant power whenever you want it, but there are times, perhaps when you are pushing to maximise the range, that you want to drive as efficiently as you can....

www.mgevownersclub.co.uk

Charging your MG

Owning an electric vehicle is a completely different experience from owning an ICE car (internal combustion engine.) If you have a driveway, or a garage y ou can charge at home, so no more trips...

www.mgevownersclub.co.uk

Thank you for these two links, they may help me when my

I did a 210 miles motorway journey (in my MG5 LR) the other day (no charging) and found the below info very accurate. The AC does make a difference but only a small amount Vs using the heater or driving style or cold/wet weather, which affect range much more.

Check this 2 links out:

Driving Efficiency Guide

One of the perks of driving an EV is the instant power whenever you want it, but there are times, perhaps when you are pushing to maximise the range, that you want to drive as efficiently as you can....

www.mgevownersclub.co.uk

Charging your MG

Owning an electric vehicle is a completely different experience from owning an ICE car (internal combustion engine.) If you have a driveway, or a garage y ou can charge at home, so no more trips...

www.mgevownersclub.co.uk

Thank you for those two links, they may help me when I eventually get my ZS. Waiting ?

 

[IanMG]

Apart from reducing the power used by the AC System, ECO has no real advantage over any of the other modes. It is your right foot that determines your range.

I would sort of agree with you but ECO restricts power to the motor and that in a way controls the lead in your right foot!
I came back from North Wales, more or less Anglesey, via Shrewsbury and Kidderminster to the M5 and the GoM made out that we could have got to Portsmouth.
We might have been able to do that had we not gone on the M5 and up Birdlip hill which rather put the mockers on achieving that!
Whatever way you look at it the ZS EV is a very economical car, we were touching 4.3ml/Kwh up to that point.
Cross country, up and down A and B roads keeping to a max of 60mph and below, I don't think that was bad. We weren't tootling along either.
On my car ECO completely disables Air Con, it says reduced but the air coming out of the vents was exactly the same as the outside temperature.
It was ideal EV weather, the battery was nice and warm.
Driving style has a big influence of battery consumption. Accelerate away from every corner or traffic light and you won't do very well! Imagine an egg on the bonnet not rolling off!!
I personally found that cruise control is not the most economical way of driving as I can control the pace rather than keep the car at a constant(ish) speed.
Everybody will have their own way of getting the most range out of the car.
If I have to use a motorway I find a nice lorry with lots of reading matter on its rear and stick behind that!
It is funny how you find a Tesla or other EV behind you as well!!

When I had the I-Pace I was on the M4 on a Friday in the company of another I-Pace driving as usual behind an artic. When we approached Bristol we got stuck in the normal Friday traffic jam and pulled up alongside each other and had a chat across the lane! to admire each others car, his was the elegant grey, mine Caesium Blue. We compared consumption and worked out we were only 4 cars behind an Audi Q5 that had shot past us some miles back doing probably the legal limit and a bit more.
We could sit there and chat not using any power whilst the A5 was still consuming diesel inching forward in the jam.
Viva the EV!

 

[IanMG]

In Eco mode it reduces either the heat provided to the cabin in the winter or the strength of A/C for cool air in the summer.
Eco mode is designed to save on range, the heater and the A/C are greedy on the miles !.
Normal and Sport mode gives full heat or full chill to the r cabin.
It’s the same in all EV’s !..

I found on my trip to Bach Wen (Do you know it?) ECO mode gave no Air Con at all!
In fact it was dangerous whilst going over the pass from Bala the temperature went down and humidity up but it couldn't keep the windscreen clear and it misted up no matter what we did!
At least the I-Pace gave me, the driver, the choice to either have effective Air Con or range. It was my call.
You could play with temperature and fan speed and see the effect on the GoM!