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Correct, but my reply was to someone who wanted to know if it would be done at service.And PDI?
Correct, but my reply was to someone who wanted to know if it would be done at service.And PDI?
Thanks Miles !.MG dealers are now to check and update all of those ECUs on all EVs to make sure they're on the latest software. The bulletin tells them that this needs to be done at every service.
Thank you Miles, and for your detailed explanation on the MG podcast.MG dealers are now to check and update all of those ECUs on all EVs to make sure they're on the latest software. The bulletin tells them that this needs to be done at every service.
I believe it is, but I'm not sure as I can't quickly find the posts. When I get time I'll add links so that they are easier to find.Is it possible to check yourself that the car has the latest firmware update?
When this happened to me last week the AA held the Start button for about 15 seconds the car shut down - he waited a short while and the car rebooted with everything working ?We tried all sorts to try and recover the situation, but no joy.
It is the second time it has happened to us. The first time we left the car alone for 10 mins and it righted itself. This time, nothing would get it to recover.
On both occasions I was attempting a charge using an Ecotricity charger - both failed.
I had tried about an hour earlier to charge on a Polar charger, this also failed, but did not cause an issue with the car.
Maybe it is something Ecotricity is doing with the communication? Even so, it should not brick the car?
Just out if interest have you tried pushing and holding the start button it could Force a reboot?
From what i have read, when a MG tech is doing a service, he needs to enter that into the MG electronic log that is run by MG.Thanks Miles !.
And how many dealers do we think will follow the instruction from MG, related to this update ?.
If the BMS update is anything to go by, not ALL !.
Chorley lads will follow the AS-22-025 protocol for sure.
Same can't be said for some of the other dealers unfortunately.
I hope to live in that world one day ??To be honest, i would expect every service to have the service computer plugged in and the tech pressing the "Install all updates" button.
I agree that’s is what you WOULD expect to happen, although we have clear evidence from forum members ( with regards to the BMS update being carried out ) that this clearly, this is not the case.To be honest, i would expect every service to have the service computer plugged in and the tech pressing the "Install all updates" button.
I think i will buy the dongle needed to use the Thai app, that apparantly can show what version of firmware is installed in the different modules.I agree that’s is what you WOULD expect to happen, although we have clear evidence from forum members ( with regards to the BMS update being carried out ) that this clearly, this is not the case.
It is my understanding that a service bulletin was issues by MG to say that the BMS update ( released 15th Jan 2020 ) should be applied to Gen1 ZS EV’s at the time of the annual service / health checks or if a customers car was presented with range / power output problems, or by a direct request of the customer, who suspected that his car had been affected by the install of some buggy software.
Given the horror stories that some owners encountered having this BMS done, some owners declined for asking for it to be installed, while some dealers just serviced the car and handed it back, without implementing the service bulletin.
This has resulted in cross hatch pattern of different Gen1 models operating on completely different software versions.
Adopting the attitude “If it’s not broken, don’t try and fix it” mentality.
I can’t help that think, that the same will happen regarding the upgrade released for the Gen2 face lift models, when it comes to the software upgrade to help avoid the “Bricking” situation, when plugging into certain rapid units.
I personally feel, it will be the very same thing on this occasion.
A LOT will depend on which dealer you take the car for annual service.
Some WILL check and apply any service bulletins provided by MG but I genuinely feel that many inexperienced dealers will avoid doing this update, just in case it all goes horribly wrong and they end up with a bigger headache of trying to get it sorted !.
We have to remember, that prior to the release of the Gen1 ZS EV some MG tech’s had never even lifted the bonnet on an electric car, let alone being asked to repair one.
Top Tip :- Try and locate a dealer who has tech’s that have received expertise on working on EV’s prior to the ZS EV would be my advice.
Some dealers ( Chorley lads instantly come to mind ) have served their time on other EV’s before the ZS EV.
Nissan Leaf is a prime example of this.
For a routine service, less important, but when it comes to applying extensive updates and getting right, then choose your dealer wisely !.
Ask me how I know folks ?.
What model was this with? Mk1 or mk2 SR/LR?When this happened to me last week the AA held the Start button for about 15 seconds the car shut down - he waited a short while and the car rebooted with everything working ?
I agree with your views !.I think i will buy the dongle needed to use the Thai app, that apparantly can show what version of firmware is installed in the different modules.
To be fair, this is not exclusive to MG
I previously owned a Vauxhall, the infotainment in mine was "version 1" and this version had a lot of problems connecting to Android Auto, they knew this and already in Firmware 2, this problem was solved.
From talking to other forum members on a model specific forum, i found that the latest version was "Version 5" so when i asked them to update the radio i specifically told them to install "The latest version, and i know version 5 exist so latest, but no older than V5"
The muppets in the garage updated it and gave it back, i checked it and they had put in version 2, as "This version fixes the problem you complained about"
I had to remind them that i had specifically asked for nothing lower than V5.
I found out the reason they installed version 2, was that they had this version on a thumbdrive and they could not be bothered to log in to the vauxhall servers to get the latest version.
In the end i told them "You have 2 options"
1. I keep version 2, and i do not pay the bill for the installation.
2. You get the car back and put V5 in the radio and i will pay the bill.
They ended up getting the car back, doing it properly.
There were numerous other fixed made in V3 to V5 and i was not going to pay full price for less than the newest version.
As said...I will get the dongle and read out the firmwares, and compare with what i find is the latest version, and then i will tell them that i expect them to upgrade everything to the latest version, and if they do not, this will be the last time they ever see the car, outside of safety recall's.
I agree with your views !.
Just plain lazy that, imputing the info from a stick is quicker and easier of course.
In the case of the BMS update and the AS update for the “ Bricking” situation, they have no option other than to connect via the main ish interface from MG.
This is not something that sort of thing that can be done via USB stick.
Way to much info to be handled by a stick.
In theory, if a small file can be handled and installed by a stick, it should be possible to send it via OTA updates.
But we know that is not happening anyway ?.
You can buy terabyte sized usb sticks now!Way to much info to be handled by a stick.
GridserveKimoluki. What rapid charger were you on when you experienced problems?