Intelligent Octopus Go works like a dream.

[Chrisjk]

Hi, I was on Go but switched to Agile in July. Recently twice charged up, 30% and then 50% and both times they paid me a few p/kWh. Haven’t paid more than 5p for ages.

 

[Brianlescargot]

Hi, I was on Go but switched to Agile in July. Recently twice charged up, 30% and then 50% and both times they paid me a few p/kw. Haven’t paid more than 5p for ages.

That’s interesting, I was on Agile prior to energy crisis and switched as the prices went through the roof. I have just checked and the rates for the last month at least are generally better and longer periods of off peak that would certainly suit me better as I have battery storage, solar and 2 EVs.

 

[rigby44]

Agile is currently cheap or paying back because of strong winds. I have the Octopus compare app and I’m just about saving money being on Go compared to Agile. The next cold snap will tilt the pendulum in favour of Go further.

We, like most people, need to charge overnight due to work. We don't have the luxury of charging at 11am when Agile might go to 1 p/kWh.

 

[Brianlescargot]

Agile is currently cheap or paying back because of strong winds. I have the Octopus compare app and I’m just about saving money being on Go compared to Agile. The next cold snap will tilt the pendulum in favour of Go further.

We, like most people, need to charge overnight due to work. We don't have the luxury of charging at 11am when Agile might go to 1 p/kWh.

But for me it looks like it would suit my needs better, I am retired, I have solar, ASHP and battery storage. I can easily avoid that 4-8pm peak period using the battery alone. Come summer months I use no peak rate electricity at all.

 

[rigby44]

But for me it looks like it would suit my needs better, I am retired, I have solar, ASHP and battery storage. I can easily avoid that 4-8pm peak period using the battery alone. Come summer months I use no peak rate electricity at all.

I dare say it will benefit you. Using the compare app you have access to the upcoming agile rates 24 hours in advance, roughly.

So when you see that 1-5p window coming, and you can be at home to charge - then it makes sense.

Just be careful that Agile can have high rates for a period too, meaning you could be forced to charge at expensive rates. For example Agile went as high as 75p/kWh during the cold snap end of Nov.

 

[Brianlescargot]

I dare say it will benefit you. Using the compare app you have access to the upcoming agile rates 24 hours in advance, roughly.

So when you see that 1-5p window coming, and you can be at home to charge - then it makes sense.

Just be careful that Agile can have high rates for a period too, meaning you could be forced to charge at expensive rates. For example Agile went as high as 75p/kWh during the cold snap end of Nov.

I don’t have to charge every day, perhaps each car once a week so I will never have to charge a car at expensive rates. If I were that desperate for a charge I could use a public charger. My main issue with higher rates is making sure I have enough battery capacity to see me through and do intend expanding by system by adding another slave.

 

[rigby44]

I don’t have to charge every day, perhaps each car once a week so I will never have to charge a car at expensive rates. If I were that desperate for a charge I could use a public charger. My main issue with higher rates is making sure I have enough battery capacity to see me through and do intend expanding by system by adding another slave.

I would download the app here ‎Octopus Compare

And monitor the rates for a week, so you have an idea.

For example, it was 4-5p kwh overnight but wont go below 10p for the rest of the day. Tomorrow AM isnt available yet.

You can always switch back to go after 1 month if you’re not making a saving.

Since joining Octopus in August I’ve spent £432 on electricity on the Go tariff. Had I been on Agile it would be £459. Agile will often beat Go on a weekly basis, especially in the spring and summer - but Go is overall better for me at present.

 

[Brianlescargot]

I would download the app here ‎Octopus Compare

And monitor the rates for a week, so you have an idea.

For example, it was 4-5p kwh overnight but wont go below 10p for the rest of the day. Tomorrow AM isnt available yet.

You can always switch back to go after 1 month if you’re not making a saving.

Since joining Octopus in August I’ve spent £432 on electricity on the Go tariff. Had I been on Agile it would be £459. Agile will often beat Go on a weekly basis, especially in the spring and summer - but Go is overall better for me at present.

Yes, I have already switched to Agile and I compared the prices for the last month and would have saved 9 days out of 10, one day as much as £10. My grid electricity use only goes high between October - February as I use way more electricity with the heat pump than either car. I can control the heating from anywhere through its app and get the house up to ambient temperature before any price spikes. As for the cars I can charge them as and when the tariff price drops even if it’s only for an hour or two. I’ve been with Octopus for almost 5 years and was previously on the Agile tariff for the best part of 2 of those years. The rest of the time it was Go which was good when the peak rate was low and off peak at 5p but then things changed. Laterally I have been on IO but I have had issues with it connecting to then not be able to connect at all.

 

[SimonS]

I have exactly the same problem with a house battery.

I leave my car unplugged during the day and go out in the evening to plug it in. I'll set the Octopus app to charge at a max of 60% by 0530 (or less % if the car doesn't need all that). This always sets a schedule of 2330 to 0530.

My house battery is set to charge from grid overnight at 2330-0530. If it charges full before 0530, it's set not to provide any electric to the house so everything takes from grid.

This is probably due to the way your system was installed. If both the battery and the charger are wired to the same consumer unit the battery will see the charger as house load. The way to cure this is to get the supply to the charger to come after the meter but before the grid CT clamp and the existing consumer unit so the battery then does not see the power going to the charger. Your installer will probably need to add another small consumer unit for the charger. The other way to solve this at the planning stage is to use a battery and charger that will talk to each other. The Myenergi Libbi and Zappi work fine together and I would expect the Tesla powerwall to do the same with their charger. Givenergy have also recently launched a charger but I’m not aware of how it integrates.

 

[SJ Stoke]

New issue:
Intelligent Octopus Go initial set up was easy via the app using the Charger setup page. It worked fine for a few days. However, while we were away, and so not plugged in, we had an email from Octopus to say that they had lost contact with the Zappi. The rectification they sent didn’t even on the App and the symbol on the app for car charging has disappeared. After many emails and calls we still are unable to get it working again. Trying to set up, I get to the MyEnergi log in page and, after adding username and password, the spinning windmill symbol appears, followed by UH-OH something went wrong - try again. Trying again produces the same result…
The Zappi firmware is up to date, as is the Octpus App. Settings are exactly as they were when the system was working.

Anyone got any ideas how to get things working again please?

 

[SJ Stoke]

Dear all, if you are having trouble with a Zappi and Intelligent Octopus Go, please make sure that your Zappi is registered to your MyEnergi website account, as well as the MyEnergi App. It’s the website that IO Go connects to during setup so if the device isn’t there then it won’t work. I ended up with devices registered on the App but having been delteed (who know by whom) on my website account. Simply reconnecting the Zappi made IO Go work as advertised again.
Cheers

 

[Fokmg]

I am on OGI using a Zappi 2 and tesla power wall
I have had one instance when the schedule was revised and charged the car at 7.00 am and took the power out of the powerwall! I have since made sure that I tell the app that I want the car by 5.30am.
As a precaution I disconnect the car at 7.00am when I take the dog out !
I also do not plug the car in till 10.30 pm .(late walk for the dog)
It will be interesting when the summer arrives, at least I can use bump charging to empty the powerwall into the car and not pay for the power.
The problem will be when there is 40 kW of solar in a day as the battery only holds 27 kWh and the car is bound to be full. The misses will have to do a lot of washing.

 

[WibbleWobble]

I only have dumb Rolec charger, I'm trying to get Octopus to add Intelligent integration to my incoming MG4. The other EV we have is a SEAT Mii and that now works fine, they must have added it recently. Before this I timed the charge using a SonOff WiFi relay module.

There must easily be 10x as many MG4's about as there are Mii's and E-up's. Hopefully they'll get round to it.

 

[SimonS]

I only have dumb Rolec charger, I'm trying to get Octopus to add Intelligent integration to my incoming MG4. The other EV we have is a SEAT Mii and that now works fine, they must have added it recently. Before this I timed the charge using a SonOff WiFi relay module.

There must easily be 10x as many MG4's about as there are Mii's and E-up's. Hopefully they'll get round to it.

You are more likely to win the EuroMillions than MG allowing access to their API.

 

[Jomarkh]

I only have dumb Rolec charger, I'm trying to get Octopus to add Intelligent integration to my incoming MG4. The other EV we have is a SEAT Mii and that now works fine, they must have added it recently. Before this I timed the charge using a SonOff WiFi relay module.

There must easily be 10x as many MG4's about as there are Mii's and E-up's. Hopefully they'll get round to it.

If you are already on IOG then just set the schedule on the Ismart app for the MG4.

 

[WibbleWobble]

If you are already on IOG then just set the schedule on the Ismart app for the MG4.

Yeah, but problem with that is the IOG schedule is dynamic. It often changes many hours after it's set.

 

[ralphaverbuch]

I only have dumb Rolec charger, I'm trying to get Octopus to add Intelligent integration to my incoming MG4. The other EV we have is a SEAT Mii and that now works fine, they must have added it recently. Before this I timed the charge using a SonOff WiFi relay module.

There must easily be 10x as many MG4's about as there are Mii's and E-up's. Hopefully they'll get round to it.

This is the same as us. We got a standard MG4 last September then in December picked up a wee SEAT Mii electric with stupudly low mileage for less than half what it would have cost to buy new. That was the good bit. Then came the bad.

Not once was I able to reliably get the intelligent Octopus Go system to play ball with the fact we had two different cars with two different battery sizes. Our charger is a Zappi 2.

I've just resorted to using the myenergi app on my phone, setting it to Eco+ so it starts to charge at 11.30 pm but unless it reaches battery capacity it just keeps on charging beyond the 11.30 pm to 5.30 am cheap charging window for Intelligent Octopus Go tariff. Does anyone have any ideas on where I'm going wrong/being dimwitted?

Ralph

 

[SimonS]

This is the same as us. We got a standard MG4 last September then in December picked up a wee SEAT Mii electric with stupudly low mileage for less than half what it would have cost to buy new. That was the good bit. Then came the bad.

Not once was I able to reliably get the intelligent Octopus Go system to play ball with the fact we had two different cars with two different battery sizes. Our charger is a Zappi 2.

I've just resorted to using the myenergi app on my phone, setting it to Eco+ so it starts to charge at 11.30 pm but unless it reaches battery capacity it just keeps on charging beyond the 11.30 pm to 5.30 am cheap charging window for Intelligent Octopus Go tariff. Does anyone have any ideas on where I'm going wrong/being dimwitted?

Ralph

https://support.myenergi.com/hc/en-gb/articles/18470101583377-Zappi-Intelligent-Octopus-Go

 

[DaevM]

For those finding the domestic battery dumping into the car battery or OGI running a cheap charge session during prime time and again dumping domestic battery first I found the following worked.
Charge domestic battery 2330-0530. My battery won't discharge whilst it's being charged.
Set car schedule to charge between 2330-0530 every day. That way it won"t be asking for any during prime time.
Connect charger when charge required and set OGI OCP to whatever % you want by 0530 ( or whatever time suits.).

Or you could just connect the CT clamp in the right place ??

 

[Tig170]

Or you could just connect the CT clamp in the right place ??

Thats what I did - works a treat for our setup (i.e. unclipped the CT clamp off the combined meter tail, to just the consumer unit meter tail) (our Ohme charger has its own mini consumer unit)