MG4 EV real world range for Trophy extended range model

[crowe99]

MG4 EV real world range for extended range model

Hi everyone,

Apologies if I have missed this in my searches but I am looking at leasing the MG4 EV Extended Range and wondered if anyone has one (or the long range) and can advise what sort of range you get in and around town/city, on 60mph roads and the motorway as well as a combo.

Below are the mileage figures I have gathered and if anyone can comment on their accuracy I'd be hugely grateful. We do mostly short journeys like everyone but some longer ones to Devon and Dorset from North London (approx 200 miles each way) and charging points are a little more scarce down there hence wanting to know how much charging I'd need to be doing

WLTP (TEH)	EVDB Real range	EVDB Combined (mild)	EVDB Combined (cold)	EVDB Highway (mild)	EVDB Highway (cold)	EV DB City (mild)	EVDB City (cold)
323	265	305	220	240	190	390	260

Thanks.

 

[decrep]

wow, lot of difference between mild and cold.
Doesn't give you much to go on, what temp is cold and what is mild?
It would be a lot different here in Mandurah to somewhere in Scotland
If you knew the temp they are talking about you could extrapolate in-between temps.

 

[dsr]

I have a number of relatives and friends living 210-230 miles from me, so am used to that distance. In the winter I always managed to just get there. At this time of year I have no problem and have just completed a 270 mile journey with 7% left.
Of course there are so many variables, but I am talking about journeys that are largely on A roads, with some dual carriageway (65mph) on those but hardly any motorway, using air con and with a passenger.

 

[crowe99]

wow, lot of difference between mild and cold.
Doesn't give you much to go on, what temp is cold and what is mild?
It would be a lot different here in Mandurah to somewhere in Scotland
If you knew the temp they are talking about you could extrapolate in-between temps.

Thanks. Cold = -10°C so pretty cold and as cold as it can get in the UK. Mild = 20°C I believe.

I took the data from:

EV Database

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I live in Hertfordshire so -5°C to 30°C (occasionally!) would be my range.

I have a number of relatives and friends living 210-230 miles from me, so am used to that distance. In the winter I always managed to just get there. At this time of year I have no problem and have just completed a 270 mile journey with 7% left.
Of course there are so many variables, but I am talking about journeys that are largely on A roads, with some dual carriageway (65mph) on those but hardly any motorway, using air con and with a passenger.

Thanks. Is that in the Trophy ER model just to check?

It sounds like if doing a longer journey, sticking to 65mph is the way forward even on the motorway and just relaxing about the 15-25 minutes of extra travel time ?

If I'm doing the long journey it would be 95% motorway.

 

[dsr]

Thanks. Cold = -10°C so pretty cold and as cold as it can get in the UK. Mild = 20°C I believe.

I took the data from:

EV Database

A comprehensive overview of all electric vehicles in the UK. Search and compare by range, make, model and price.

ev-database.org

I live in Hertfordshire so -5°C to 30°C (occasionally!) would be my range.

Winter cold usually 5 to 10. Not enjoyed any hot weather yet; temperature was about 18 to 20 for my 270 mile trip.

Thanks. Is that in the Trophy ER model just to check?

It sounds like if doing a longer journey, sticking to 65mph is the way forward even on the motorway and just relaxing about the 15-25 minutes of extra travel time ?

If I'm doing the long journey it would be 95% motorway.

Yes, ER. Always worth looking at someone's avatar, which usually gives their model.

 

[siteguru]

Yes, ER. Always worth looking at someone's avatar, which usually gives their model.

Unless you're on a phone, in which case you only see the avatar and details if you turn your phone to landscape orientation.

 

[dsr]

Unless you're on a phone, in which case you only see the avatar and details if you turn your phone to landscape orientation.

Oh, life is SO complicated ?

 

[extendedrangeMG4]

I have an extended range.
I get 210 doing 70 on the motorway
I get 320 around town
I get 280 in my normal drive which is a mix of everything.
I live somewhere hilly, I drive fairly fast and in sport mode and always leave about 10% of battery so my ranges are based on 90% of battery use.

 

[griff1000]

I’ve got the Trophy LR - I regularly do a 200- mile round trip from Cardiff to Pembrokeshire so it’s motorway/dual carriageway for about 60% of the way (-ish cos there’s a few miles of 50mph section in that) and regular A roads the rest of the way. Some decent hills on the way. I drive at 65mph with eco mode on but I use the A/C when I need to. Depending on the weather I usually get back with between 10-40 miles of range left.

 

[pmknowles]

I drive to Cambridge (190 miles) in eco mode and 70mph on the A1. I get there with about 10% left (with 100% starting charge). To be honest it's better to stop halfway for a pee and cuppa - a fast charger will put in around 30% in 15 minutes or so (at a cost).

 

[rjhfandclf]

10. On our return journey, we planned our stops from our trials going down and, apart from a couple of hiccups (due to my last-minute changes of mind!), all went very smoothly. We made just five commercial charging stops over the three days/two nights, having departed at 1.00 pm on day one, fully-charged up to 100%, and arriving home around 4.00 p.m. on day three with 21% in the tank.The first three legs were mainly cross-country, the remainder mainly motorway:

Leg 1: to Powerdot charger, Super-U, PINEUILH	188 km / 119 miles @ 16.1 kWh/100km / 3.85 mi/kWh; added 22 kWh (29%)
Leg 2: to hotel	50 km / 31 miles; (no charge)
Leg 3: to Ionity charger, A10 aire, SAINT-ÉPAIN	258 km / 161 miles (missed out the intended Tesla charge at Poitiers as too soon, and also the replacement one by mistake!)
Total Legs 2 + 3	- 308 km / 192 miles @ 17.2 kWh/100km / 3.60 mi/kWh; added 56 kWh (73%)
Leg 4: to TotalEnergy charger, A28 aire, ALENÇON	178 km / 111 miles @ 19.9 kWh/100km / 3.12 mi/kWh; added 38 kWh (50%)
Leg 5: to hotel	28 km / 17 miles @ 15.9 kWh/100km / 3.90 mi/kWh; added 16 kWh (21%) (FOC)
Leg 6: to IECharge charger, off A16, RUE	265 km / 165 miles @ 18.9 kWh/100km / 3.28 mi/kWh; added 42 kWh (56%)
Leg 7: to home	230 km / 143 miles @ 18.5 kWh/100km / 3.35 mi/kWh; to 100% = 59 kWh (78%)
Overall return trip: 1,197 km / 746 miles @ 19.2 kWh/100km / 3.23 mi/kWh

I don't know if the above is of interest here, but was recorded following our first longer-distance 'exploratory' trip to France in the recent cold spring-time - so only one real-life temperature-related experience noted - but in an MG4 Trophy ER. The whole thread is at Late winter/spring - first longer trip to South-West France - some observations ...

Regret it doesn't quote (but is calculable from it) max miles/ranges achievable 'full > empty', but it does give a realistic expection within a 'comfort zone' (and equally allowing for long-distance 'comfort breaks') during cooler weather conditions ... quite a long way away from the sales brochure-quoted figures!

 

[adiel]

I have an extended range.
I get 210 doing 70 on the motorway
I get 320 around town
I get 280 in my normal drive which is a mix of everything.
I live somewhere hilly, I drive fairly fast and in sport mode and always leave about 10% of battery so my ranges are based on 90% of battery use.

My Extended Range consumption figures broadly align with the above owners' stats. I regularly do a 360-mile round trip in a day, which is largely motorway and dual carriageway. I generally drive at 65mph on the Motorway and tend to need a small 10-minute charge at a Tesla Supercharger to get me home with 7% or more battery remaining, having started the journey from home with 100%.

This is my second MG4, having previously owned a Trophy Long Range, which I found slightly more efficient than the Extended Range and also a bit quicker to rapid charge. But the additional range from the bigger battery means more of my journey is done at home charging costs, which means I spend about £10 to £15 per trip less in my Extended Range than my Long Range MG4. In terms of consumption, in warmer weather I am using about 91 kWh of energy, which is around 3.9 miles per kWh. In colder weather, based on my Trophy Long Range, I am expecting the journey to use 10 to 15% more energy (3.3 to 3.5 miles per kWh)

 

[Mannakin]

I have an extended range.
I get 210 doing 70 on the motorway
I get 320 around town
I get 280 in my normal drive which is a mix of everything.
I live somewhere hilly, I drive fairly fast and in sport mode and always leave about 10% of battery so my ranges are based on 90% of battery use.

Thats about my experience too.

Tbh, my bladder usually runs out before the battery, so i just charge when i stop ;p

 

[dsr]

I will add my voice to the “Yes, that’s like me” brigade although, to be honest, I think I get a little less. I would like to put that down to a weight thing, as my longer journeys always have my wife and a suitcase of luggage on board, with other stuff filling the boot. I found that such weight reduced the MPG in my last ICE by 5% or so, but I haven’t yet got a handle on this for my MG4.
PS. For the avoidance of doubt, I must add that my wife is most definitely sylph-like ?

 

[Tangoed Man]

I don't know if the above is of interest here, but was recorded following our first longer-distance 'exploratory' trip to France in the recent cold spring-time - so only one real-life temperature-related experience noted - but in an MG4 Trophy ER. The whole thread is at Late winter/spring - first longer trip to South-West France - some observations ...

Regret it doesn't quote (but is calculable from it) max miles/ranges achievable 'full > empty', but it does give a realistic expection within a 'comfort zone' (and equally allowing for long-distance 'comfort breaks') during cooler weather conditions ... quite a long way away from the sales brochure-quoted figures!

Hi, that is a really useful travel log, and from rough estimates of rapid charger prices that would equate to about 15p/mile when travelling long distance. We were thinking of taking our MG LR for an extended trip to Europe, but on reflection, I think taking the Mercedes diesel at 10p/mile might be a more cautious and cheaper option.

 

[rjhfandclf]

Hi, that is a really useful travel log, and from rough estimates of rapid charger prices that would equate to about 15p/mile when travelling long distance. We were thinking of taking our MG LR for an extended trip to Europe, but on reflection, I think taking the Mercedes diesel at 10p/mile might be a more cautious and cheaper option.

Interesting .... my own conclusions were exactly the reverse (but I may easily have erred somewhere in my calcs)! Further on in the original thread I noted:

12. Finally, we used 501 kWh in total, covering a total of 2,672 km (1,665miles) at an average of 18.6 kWh/100 km (3.33 mi/kWh), and the total cost of electricity consumed (including two hotel ‘freebies’ (43 kWh in total), plus home ‘Granny’ top-ups to 100% both in France and the UK at domestic rates), was £163, or ca. 10p/mile – predominantly via commercial public fast chargers (at any available rate up to 350 kWh). Fastest actual charge rate obtained (briefly) was 136 kW from 13% SoC. Average speed over the total 1,665 miles was 31 mph! The longest distance we did between charges was 308 km/192 miles (75% cross-country), but a more ‘comfortable’ March/April-time motorway distance between charging stops seemed to be around 150 miles (240 km) for our MG4 ER. It will be interesting to see what the next late-summer equivalent is.

Diesel fuel consumption for the Mercedes C220 for the same journey would currently have cost around £265, or 16p/mile.

I intend to update that thread once we have completed our next trip over the same route in much warmer late Aug/Sept weather - whch we hope and anticipate might be even better.

 

[Tangoed Man]

Interesting .... my own conclusions were exactly the reverse (but I may easily have erred somewhere in my calcs)! Further on in the original thread I noted: ...

I intend to update that thread once we have completed our next trip over the same route in much warmer late Aug/Sept weather - which we hope and anticipate might be even better.

My E220d 4Matic on that type of trip would do 62mpg, easily, and at times more. I was assuming public charging rates around 65p/kWh, and some European chargers are far cheaper and some far more expensive than that. UK rapid charger are outrageously expensive and so for long journey we retain the diesel Mercedes.

 

[extendedrangeMG4]

Hi, that is a really useful travel log, and from rough estimates of rapid charger prices that would equate to about 15p/mile when travelling long distance. We were thinking of taking our MG LR for an extended trip to Europe, but on reflection, I think taking the Mercedes diesel at 10p/mile might be a more cautious and cheaper option.

My E Class was 100% cheaper to fuel than my MG4 if all I did was fill up at a garage/public charger. The only way my MG makes sense on fuel is because I can charge at home 90% of the time for around £2.70 per 100 miles. At the public chargers I use on the motorways it is more like £28 per 100 miles. In my trusty old 160,000 mile diesel Merc it was about £20 per 100 miles at the motorway station.

 

[fnegroni]

My E Class was 100% cheaper to fuel than my MG4 if all I did was fill up at a garage/public charger. The only way my MG makes sense on fuel is because I can charge at home 90% of the time for around £2.70 per 100 miles. At the public chargers I use on the motorways it is more like £28 per 100 miles. In my trusty old 160,000 mile diesel Merc it was about £20 per 100 miles at the motorway station.

If I mostly filled up at the Tesla supercharger nearest to me, I would get their membership and pay 33p per kWh.
That would be £9 for 100 miles.

 

[rjhfandclf]

My E220d 4Matic on that type of trip would do 62mpg

My 13 years old Mercedes was a C220 125 Sport diesel estate, but I never got much more than 50 mpg out of it (albeit in immense comfort) on our longer French trips, but I think we are also not comparing like-for-like ... My particular need is for our majority of driving being in France, where in recent times the lowest cost of diesel has hovered around 1.75€ (£1.50-ish)/ltr. This was always from supermarkets - all I ever used, as motorways are usually well over 2€ ... hence my diesel figures quoted.

I also quoted in my original thread that the same selective policy can be employed in France for electric charging by going only a little way off motorways. By doing this, I never paid over 50p/kWh (for an emergency 'splash-and-dash' at Total on motorway) and frequently paid as low as 25-30p/kWh (with one supplier IrCharge on offer at 21.5p/kWh! ... and again, hence my calculations.

But I fully accept that this would be nearly impossible at home in the UK - where fortunately I also only ever need to charge at home for a pittance due to very light usage.