BUT - Carplay is now dead. It was fine when I drove there and has been OK up to now.

I've tested three cables, none of them work. The one I've been using is an Apple cable. All cables work with the rear seat USB port for charging the phone but the USB port in the front is now dead. No charging, no Carplay.
Dealer asked if I could come back in this afternoon. So I figure, I'll grab some more cables anyway.

Hop in car.

Naturally Carplay just fires up straight away, no issue. All six cables. :rolleyes:

I plug and unplug all of them a few times. No, problem. Comes on automatically.

Weird. So I thank the service rep for his patience and we just agree to monitor.
 
I saw you pull in this morning but you'd gone before I wandered out. When I got there at 7.45am the reception bloke had no knowledge of the MG4 at all. I had to show him & his boss how to start and stop the car. They didn't know you could shut it down without locking the doors & that it didn't have a start button. They seemed real impressed by the iSmart app especially the geofence feature.

When I picked the car up he just said everything was normal & they gave the car a wash. Then he & his boss peppered me with questions. Maybe ours are the first 2 back for the initial check.

I use Android Auto & bought a short USB data cable on line (won't work with a QC3 or PD charging USB cable). It works fine but I don't use it & was just using the cable to charge my phone as it is not wireless chargeable & there is no function to turn it off. I accidentally found out that to turn it off I just turn the radio on. I just received a short USBC-USBC QC3 PD 60W cable in the mail so will use that to charge my phone & the other to run Android Auto when needed.

I have not used Amazon on line music because I set up a free Amazon account on my home PC & logged on in the car & all the options with playlists, albums etc appeared but none would play. It appears you get only one free music option & that is my home PC & they want me to set up an Amazon Prime membership so I can get music on more devices. I had a Prime membership a year or 2 back when I bought a new Pioneer AMP & they kept hounding me for money for services I didn't need so cancelled it. The cancellation process is a real rigmarole with multiple links and cancellation notices in the smallest font hidden in long paragraphs.

While I was at the dealership, 4 new Xpower MG4s arrived so I went & had a good look & a yarn with the salesman. Internally they appear identical to the Essence but have exposed alloys with an orange plastic cover over the bigger disc callipers and silver highlights on the black plastic body mouldings. I'm going to see if I can con a test drive for them.
 
I saw you pull in this morning but you'd gone before I wandered out.
Oh, sorry to miss you. I didn't know. Didn't look like they had a waiting area and I saw no one inside the service office, so I just headed off to the gym. I figured you quite reasonably probably had other business and your car would be in the shop. Another time!

When I got there at 7.45am the reception bloke had no knowledge of the MG4 at all. I had to show him & his boss how to start and stop the car. They didn't know you could shut it down without locking the doors & that it didn't have a start button.
Same. When I picked it up he said he still couldn't work it out and had to get a tech out to come and move it.

Then he & his boss peppered me with questions. Maybe ours are the first 2 back for the initial check.
They would be some of the first they sold.

While I was at the dealership, 4 new Xpower MG4s arrived so I went & had a good look & a yarn with the salesman. Internally they appear identical to the Essence but have exposed alloys with an orange plastic cover over the bigger disc callipers and silver highlights on the black plastic body mouldings. I'm going to see if I can con a test drive for them.
heh

good luck!
 
Well I'll be .... I installed the new 60watt Baseus PD2.0/QC3/4 USB-C cable & plugged in the phone to charge it & Android Auto started & not only that, it runs really fast compared to the USB-A data cable. I'd been told that USB-C to USB-C would not work this way. Moral of the story "Don't believe everything you've been told or read, try it for yourself"
 
With the technology avaiable today I can't figure out how chargers can be so unreliable or not working unless physically damaged. My home charger works perfectly every time.
Your home "charger" has almost nothing in it; it's just a small computer and a honking relay. When charging at home or at any AC "charger" (technically they are EVSEs), the charging is happening in the car, in the on-board charger.

DC fast chargers however have large, complex, high power switching circuitry that works at high duty cycles and often highish temperatures. It's not clear to me where most of the failures occur: at the customer interfacing unit with the plug, or in the back end with the power electronics, or with communications back to the mother ship. I imagine a lot of the trouble is with the plugs and cables, as these are handled by the public, are out in the weather, the cables get hot and most have coolant running through them, there is insertion and removal so some material erodes over time, and cars of many different manufacturers connect to that part of the circuit. There are also circuit breakers that can trip (legitimate and nuisance tripping), and some installations may have marginal electrical supply, and so on. There are fans that have filters that eventually clog up. Oh, and yobbos that press emergency stop buttons because they have nothing better to do, or that are told by social media that EVs are evil.
 
I installed the new 60watt Baseus PD2.0/QC3/4 USB-C cable & plugged in the phone to charge it & Android Auto started & not only that, it runs really fast compared to the USB-A data cable.
That is interesting. I don't have a USB-C to Lightning data cable but tempted to get one and see.
 
DC fast chargers however have large, complex, high power switching circuitry that works at high duty cycles and often highish temperatures. It's not clear to me where most of the failures occur: at the customer interfacing unit with the plug, or in the back end with the power electronics, or with communications back to the mother ship. I imagine a lot of the trouble is with the plugs and cables, as these are handled by the public, are out in the weather, the cables get hot and most have coolant running through them, there is insertion and removal so some material erodes over time, and cars of many different manufacturers connect to that part of the circuit. There are also circuit breakers that can trip (legitimate and nuisance tripping), and some installations may have marginal electrical supply, and so on. There are fans that have filters that eventually clog up. Oh, and yobbos that press emergency stop buttons because they have nothing better to do, or that are told by social media that EVs are evil.
All of which tells me the design process, location and equipment needs much better thought.

DC fast charge stations tend to be placed at unsupervised sites. Petrol/diesel bowsers are not.

If businesses are going to make the decision to place charging infrastructure in an unsupervised location then it needs to be designed accordingly.

There's a reason roadside / public park dunnies are made from stainless steel and not the "glamorous" ceramics we have at home, or even in rest rooms in service centres/shopping malls/cafes.
 
AA/CP via the USB C port shouldn't work, but maybe in the newer models they've assigned data capability to both ports?
 
AA/CP via the USB C port shouldn't work, but maybe in the newer models they've assigned data capability to both ports?
Both ports have data capability in all cars - otherwise USB media would not work.

So the issue is whether the car looks for AA/CP on both ports or just one - this will be software controlled and may have changed in an update.
 
EDIT: Mystery solved. MG had accidentally lent me a pre production MG4 77 long range that didn't have production spec parts

Has anyone with an Aussie long range 77 managed to get 3 phase 11kW AC charging speed?

Earlier today I was at a public charging location that supports 3 phase 22kW according to Plugshare and my media loan review MG4 77 was only accepting @ 7kW rate. AC rate was set to max in car settings

I tried 3 out of the 4 bays and these all charged at the same rate appx 7kW. A Tesla was in the 4th bay charging at 11kW :(
 

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Were you using your own cable? Is it a 3-phase 32A cable, or is it (as I suspect) a single phase 32A cable?

With a single phase 32A cable you'll only ever get 7kW max. regardless of the power source.
 
Were you using your own cable? Is it a 3-phase 32A cable, or is it (as I suspect) a single phase 32A cable?

With a single phase 32A cable you'll only ever get 7kW max. regardless of the power source.
Good question. The cables are built in at this location I tested at yesterday

I have my own EVSE branded 3 phase capable cable for use at BYO type 2 charging locations
 
Take a look at the charge port in your car - check that there are actually pins in the L2 and L3 slots. If not then your car has a single phase onboard charger.
 
Take a look at the charge port in your car - check that there are actually pins in the L2 and L3 slots. If not then your car has a single phase onboard charger.
EDIT: Mystery solved. MG had accidentally lent me a pre production MG4 77 long range that didn't have production spec parts

I think you've solved it! I didn't think to look at the pins because the car specs say 11kW 3 phase capable

Definitely no pins in L2 and L3. I will call my MG media contact to find out why ... Has the spec changed or maybe this car got a single phase socket by mistake
 

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Has the spec changed or maybe this car got a single phase socket by mistake

Let's hope it's the latter, but it wouldn't be the first time MG has lied about charging speeds.

If it's not a mistake, then it makes their own "chargehub" product even worse - the 11kW version of that is limited to 16A, so would be 3.6kW on these cars.
 
As you can see in my Avatar, I’ve joined Team Orange on the 2/10/23. Just walked into McGrath MG in Belconnen (Canberra) and drove away, no ordering or anything, plus they had others. Mines an MG4 Excite 64 and I’m very happy with it. Home charging off solar at and plenty of free fast chargers about have made my first 1500km all but free ($13 so far). Great handling, plenty of zip and very quiet.
Ingest trip so far was 540kms and charged twice while had a coffee.
No issues to report…it’s currently sitting at an airport for 5 weeks while I’m O/S, be interesting how that plays out when I get back.
Edit: Turning circle is like a ride on lawnmower, no issues with the auto lane control, just concentrate on the road!
Apple CarPlay is great, use Waze, not Maps. Not upgrading the sound system as it suits my level of hearing loss perfectly.
Didn’t do the Ceramic coating thing, although was pushed hard. Tinting is a must I think on windows.
 
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