Poor charging experience

[Rolfe]

Understandable. They need to make the sign more obvious.

 

[siteguru]

Google for Lord Denning's Red Hand Rule ... also Contra Proferentem.

The "fine" can be challenged - if you can be bothered to do so.

 

[Rolfe]

Google for Lord Denning's Red Hand Rule ... also Contra Proferentem.

The "fine" can be challenged - if you can be bothered to do so.

I'm [not?] sure I can be bothered to argue with the council jobsworths for a tenner.

 

[ukslim]

Casually browsing ZapMap to see what my charging options are for an upcoming visit to Aberystwyth. The National Library car park has FORTY CHARGERS!

10 x 75kW, 30 x 22kW

Comment on ZapMap says they're often ICEd on weekdays; not a problem at weekends.

But this should very much be the way things go.

Sadly this is a 20 minute walk, with a steep hill, from the town centre itself, where you'll just find 3 PodPoints in Tesco, one in Lidl and a couple of slow chargers for hotel guests.

(There's also a 6-device public Tesla station on the outskirts -- but I'm more interested in masses of destination chargers)

Also... there's nothing on ZapMap, until you click through, to indicate "this is a large group of chargers" versus "this is a lone charger"; would be useful.

 

[WonkoTheSaneUK]

Casually browsing ZapMap to see what my charging options are for an upcoming visit to Aberystwyth. The National Library car park has FORTY CHARGERS!

10 x 75kW, 30 x 22kW

Comment on ZapMap says they're often ICEd on weekdays; not a problem at weekends.

But this should very much be the way things go.

Sadly this is a 20 minute walk, with a steep hill, from the town centre itself, where you'll just find 3 PodPoints in Tesco, one in Lidl and a couple of slow chargers for hotel guests.

(There's also a 6-device public Tesla station on the outskirts -- but I'm more interested in masses of destination chargers)

If you fancy a ride on the Llangollen railway, there are the 8x Instavolt rapids at Rhug Estate, and a brand new 2x 50kW/10x 22kW at Corwen train station.

 

[Rolfe]

Checking out a theatre where I'm going to attend a performance in August, I discovered they have 16 type 2 chargers, 32 connectors, in the car park. (Plus others that seem to be for staff.) I saw a comment that you'll only get 3.5 Kw if both connectors on a charger are in use, but at least they're trying.

 

[PristDean]

Paying for EV charging is worse than Petrol!​

Based on my experience with public chargers too, I totally agree with this guy

 

[siteguru]

Of course it is easier to rock up, fill up and pay ... the ICE industry has had 100+ years to refine the experience. ?

 

[PristDean]

Of course it is easier to rock up, fill up and pay ... the ICE industry has had 100+ years to refine the experience. ?

Were card payment systems really available 100+ years ago ?

 

[Kithmo]

With all the ICE cars I've had since 1973, I managed to go until 2020, when I got the ZS EV, without paying for fuel with a card at the pump.

 

[PristDean]

Yeah for me, not sure what year I started using a card in place of cash, but likely 2010 'ish' I feel. Cards with chip & pin were introduced in 2003

 

[Deleted member 10041]

I feel quite fortunate that we have charge place Scotland up here, their RFID card has never let me down, used on numerous occasions and just works.

 

[Chequers]

Paying for EV charging is worse than Petrol!​

Based on my experience with public chargers too, I totally agree with this guy

So you have rocked up to a charger in your 30-40K EV and you only have £40 space on your credit card, you shouldn't even be in car in that case, you should be on the bus.

 

[PristDean]

So you have rocked up to a charger in your 30-40K EV and you only have £40 space on your credit card, you shouldn't even be in car in that case, you should be on the bus.

Err... £40 worth of elec would fill most battery cars so it's ample. The idea there was to test through pre-payment limitations on cards !. Plus it's much better than a nasty diesel bus with the great unwashed

 

[Chequers]

Err... £40 worth of elec would fill most battery cars so it's ample. The idea there was to test through pre-payment limitations on cards !. Plus it's much better than a nasty diesel bus with the great unwashed

And if the charger glitches and try's to authorize a second time you're screwed

 

[PristDean]

And if the charger glitches and try's to authorize a second time you're screwed

Exactly the point he's making.... EV chargers have a long way to go to catch up with petrol & diesel payment pump systems. But, the technology is there, so it should be a short journey.

 

[Ian Key]

He's not comparing like with like. EV chargers are the equivalent of pay at pump petrol stations which take £100 from you before you fill up so with only £40 balance left on his card he wouldn't be able to put petrol in either.

 

[tsedge]

He's not comparing like with like. EV chargers are the equivalent of pay at pump petrol stations which take £100 from you before you fill up so with only £40 balance left on his card he wouldn't be able to put petrol in either.

But I suppose at many petrol stations you'd be able to go in and pay with your card and not have a hold on the card, just the charge.

 

[SimonS]

Stirling council seem to have the right idea. Their Craigforth P&R has 30 type 2’s (so 60 places mostly 22k & a few 7k) and 4 50k rapids. most are under cover which supports a large PV array. Type 2’s are 25p/kWh with no time limit. Rapids are 35p with a 40 minute limit. £1 per minute if you overstay.

 

[PristDean]

He's not comparing like with like. EV chargers are the equivalent of pay at pump petrol stations which take £100 from you before you fill up so with only £40 balance left on his card he wouldn't be able to put petrol in either.

Completely dependent on what the pre authorisation charge is. Some petrol stations want to pre-auth charge £120 because of the cost of petrol, but immediately credit that back once you have paid for what you bought.
I used Instavolt who charged me £40 pre-auth charge for £9 worth of elec, but did not refund me the re-auth charge for three days.
So what he is comparing like for like, why can't elec charging owning companies behave just as fuel pumpp ones do at the pay point ?