Reducing non-Tesla access to the Supercharger network

[Pebblefeline]

New laws to make charging an electric vehicle easier and quicker

Regulations to improve the EV charging experience for millions of drivers.

www.gov.uk

Only just seen this, there is rumour that Tesla will close any open v3 sites in November

Sigh

 

[5teep]

This is something that's happening in the comments though. He did a video on how great opening the superchargers to non-Teslas is, and never mentioned any imminent closing of the older charger models. I said in the comments that I understood this was going to happen and I was surprised he hadn't mentioned it. The answer I got was "Not happening. Tesla got a legal waiver."

I replied saying that was good news, could he elaborate. No answer. I've recently asked again for clarification, so we'll see if he responds.

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I know he says to tell him if he's got something wrong, but I've done this several times, and seen others do it, and he just ignores it.

I don't see how he could possibly know even if it were true.

 

[HazardLights]

I also don't see how Tesla could get a waiver to the regulations without all operators getting a waiver in which case they would just update the regulations. Anything else would be discriminatory and anti-competitive. However I have zero domain knowledge, haven't read the regulations and don't understand their statutory basis so this is just a "guy at the end of the bar" opinion. Normally I would do my due diligence, but I am tired, am still full from Sunday lunch, and feeling my age so I won't bother.

 

[Gomev]

This is something that's happening in the comments though. He did a video on how great opening the superchargers to non-Teslas is, and never mentioned any imminent closing of the older charger models. I said in the comments that I understood this was going to happen and I was surprised he hadn't mentioned it. The answer I got was "Not happening. Tesla got a legal waiver."

I replied saying that was good news, could he elaborate. No answer. I've recently asked again for clarification, so we'll see if he responds.

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I know he says to tell him if he's got something wrong, but I've done this several times, and seen others do it, and he just ignores it.

I unsubscribed from him a while ago. His knowledge of non-Tesla's is limited and he still maintains the public charger price war is happening.

 

[tsedge]

I have had a good look and I can't find anything to substantiate his claims.

So it is possible they will close the non-V4 sites to non-Teslas until they are upgraded.

 

[pmknowles]

Mobile signal required, remote sites, underground car parks etc might not have a signal from your provider.

One of the annoyances is the need to use mobile data with the apps when, in some remote places, there's a charger but no mobile signal (Alnwick Castle being one). The chargers should use bluetooth or provide a 'crippled' wifi hotspot that only the app can log into.

 

[siteguru]

One of the annoyances is the need to use mobile data with the apps when, in some remote places, there's a charger but no mobile signal (Alnwick Castle being one).

Agreed. The Wenea chargers in the car park at Luss were like that the last time I tried to use them.

 

[Rutsy]

I also don't see how Tesla could get a waiver to the regulations without all operators getting a waiver in which case they would just update the regulations. Anything else would be discriminatory and anti-competitive. However I have zero domain knowledge, haven't read the regulations and don't understand their statutory basis so this is just a "guy at the end of the bar" opinion. Normally I would do my due diligence, but I am tired, am still full from Sunday lunch, and feeling my age so I won't bother.

Tesla don't have a waiver in the sense it's being interpreted here. However, networks that are for the exclusive use of a single vehicle manufacturer are not regarded as public chargers for the purpose of these regs.. I think it's only Tesla that would have qualified for this exemption in the past (although not now).

The regs seem to leave Tesla in the position that it will either have to restrict it's network to Tesla only vehicles (and therefore not have to comply with the regs) or designate some or all of its chargers as public and implement the regs requirements (contactless, 3rd party apps, reliability requirements, etc)

 

[Roldorf]

I also unsubscribed from Dave Takes It On, banging on about Tesla all the time made me crazy and his voice always makes me cringe.

 

[Rolfe]

"Greetings, Titans!" Pretentious, or what? He just ignores people who correct him in the comments.

 

[Gomev]

"Greetings, Titans!" Pretentious, or what? He just ignores people who correct him in the comments.

Indeed, I have questioned him a few times in the past without response.

 

[Gadget Geek]

I must admit I've never watched any of his videos. The thumbnails tend to put me off, he always looks like a bit of a t**t.

 

[APMG]

Unless he can back it up with the source then its just waffle and I can get that at the waffle house

 

[Anon70]

in some remote places, there's a charger but no mobile signal

Not just in remote places, the chargers at the Weetons Garden Centre in Harrogate have patchy mobile signal. It does give the Tesla owners a laugh to see the non Tesla owners waggling phones around to get a charge to start.

 

[mg4mc]

Not just in remote places, the chargers at the Weetons Garden Centre in Harrogate have patchy mobile signal. It does give the Tesla owners a laugh to see the non Tesla owners waggling phones around to get a charge to start.

That's where the car hotspot comes in handy - I used it at the Harrogate chargers.

 

[siteguru]

That's where the car hotspot comes in handy - I used it at the Harrogate chargers.

The car hotspot creates a WiFi network, but uses mobile data ... if your phone can't get a mobile data signal why should your car? (Unless it's a network provider issue ... MG use Vodafone in the UK I believe).

 

[mg4mc]

Isn't the MG SIM multi-network, pretty sure it is? My car gets a good signal when my phone doesn't and my phone uses the Vodafone network I think (talkMobile). Anyway it worked fine with the hotspot at Harrogate when I couldn't get the app to work with the crap signal on my phone.

 

[Gomev]

Has anything happened ? Has anybody tried a Supercharger ?

If you want to check the location of V4 chargers, open to all follow this link and use the filters (top left of page blue funnel symbol and select under Stall type and Open to)

supercharge.info

Zoomable Tesla supercharger map with adjustable range indicator.

supercharge.info

 

[DixieTGS]

This site is maintained by enthusiasts and not Tesla so may take a while to be updated if you're just setting the dropdown to 'other' which should be the quickest way of finding out where we can charge. Loads of useful info there though.

 

[dsimpkins]

Has anything happened ? Has anybody tried a Supercharger ?

If you want to check the location of V4 chargers, open to all follow this link and use the filters (top left of page blue funnel symbol and select under Stall type and Open to)

supercharge.info

Zoomable Tesla supercharger map with adjustable range indicator.

supercharge.info

No, last time was 23rd Nov for me on a supercharger