X Power lowering springs now available. ?

[Brettus]

(Not everything much is covered by the 7 year warranty)

FTFY ?

 

[kin]

It wouldn't be "slammed" 30mm is not to bad at all. And there is quite a big arch gap on the X Power. ??

I read that the Xpower ride height is supposedly higher than the lesser powered MG4, although I’m not sure by how much? So I think it’s probably more a 20-25mm drop compared to a Trophy?
Looking at the picture shown, I doubt very much it would hit any speed bumps.

 

[BishiBoshi]

But... Why?

 

[JustAnotherMidlifeCrisis]

I defer to those above on whether lowering the ride height would materially risk wheel scrape. I tend though to agree with Bishi - is it really worth it? The car is already a looker. I'm boring however. I almost always prefer the stock look to after-market adjustments.

We live in a free society however and I defend the prerogative of every XPower owner to bling the crap out of their motor.

 

[Deleted member 11291]

While lowering will improve the look, more often than not its detrimental to ride quality. Been there got the t shirt, but each of us can do whatever we want. In the meantime later I will be going on my first blast of the new year ?

 

[salty]

But... Why?

Because it definitely looks better. Handles better, (supposedly) lower centre of gravity, less body roll, and all that. And finally coz we can. ??

 

[AB71]

FYI just popped up on my Google news feed for those with one

 

[tsedge]

I love it when people heavily modify their cars and the MG4 is a great car to modify with lots of possibilities. It isn't something I'd do myself, but that's just because I have different interests, I love to see people try things out.

 

[JonnyG]

Yes agreed and I like watching and have subscribed to MAGOULAS FABRICATIONS Youtube videos.

If I was 30 years younger I may be trying a few mods myself ??

 

[jpk]

While lowering will improve the look, more often than not its detrimental to ride quality. Been there got the t shirt, but each of us can do whatever we want. In the meantime later I will be going on my first blast of the new year ?

A common mistake with suspension upgrades are not matching the spring rates with the dampning and rebound of the shocks and struts. Also people don't loosen and re tighten all the suspension components with rubber bushings with the weight on wheels resulting in pre load on them which contributes to a bouncy ride!

 

[salty]

A common mistake with suspension upgrades are not matching the spring rates with the dampning and rebound of the shocks and struts. Also people don't loosen and re tighten all the suspension components with rubber bushings with the weight on wheels resulting in pre load on them which contributes to a bouncy ride!

Lowering springs are developed to work with the cars standard shocks, no need to change the shocks at all, unless you particularly want to. One thing I do, do though is get the tracking done etc. Me personally always go to Demon Tweeks in Wrexham, who supply and fit them, and do the necessary checks and test drive it before they'll let the car go. And I've never had any problems at all. ??

 

[mg4mc]

if anything like VW Golfs this may also include the radar, camera etc.... which used to require recalibration by VW at £200 a pop to remain covered after suspension changes IIRC.

I think that's rubbish (probably invented by a dealer to get more cash), the VW radar on the Golf is quite high up, dropping it a few centimeters will make b*gger all difference that I can see. Certainly far less than putting a load in the back of the car!

 

[jpk]

Lowering springs are developed to work with the cars standard shocks, no need to change the shocks at all, unless you particularly want to. One thing I do, do though is get the tracking done etc. Me personally always go to Demon Tweeks in Wrexham, who supply and fit them, and do the necessary checks and test drive it before they'll let the car go.

I'm definitely not part of the fussy pedantic gang but what you're saying isn't 100% correct, please don't think I'm trying to initiate a confrontation. Most mild drop springs (30mm or less) will indeed be fine with your OEM struts and shocks but any more will run the risk of hitting the bump stops unless you trim them as you've shifted the zone of the pistons travel by too much. Also I've included a screenshot from bilsteins website regarding the correct procedure with any rubber bushings. I learnt the hard way when dropping my Mazda and had to get it up on ramps again post modification which was soul destroying ?

 

[salty]

I'm definitely not part of the fussy pedantic gang but what you're saying isn't 100% correct, please don't think I'm trying to initiate a confrontation. Most mild drop springs (30mm or less) will indeed be fine with your OEM struts and shocks

Agreed, wouldn't go more than 30mm drop with just springs. And never even crossed my mind about you trying to initiate a confrontation. It's all about opinions, and that's great. ??

 

[JonnyG]

I think that's rubbish (probably invented by a dealer to get more cash), the VW radar on the Golf is quite high up, dropping it a few centimeters will make b*gger all difference that I can see. Certainly far less than putting a load in the back of the car!

It's not quite that simple though as changing/lowering the springs will require a subsequent full wheel alignment to check camber and toe etc.. This is what can also affect the calibration of the Adaptive Cruise Control etc. There's plenty of threads out there about it (admittedy not MG ones though?).

 

[mg4mc]

It's not quite that simple though as changing/lowering the springs will require a subsequent full wheel alignment to check camber and toe etc.. This is what can also affect the calibration of the Adaptive Cruise Control etc. There's plenty of threads out there about it (admittedy not MG ones though?).

Not convinced. If a four-wheel alignment makes the car crab enough to throw out the radar alignment, then something is seriously wrong, and I wouldn't be using that garage again.

If you have an OBD II then you can look at the VW radar alignment figures the car is calculating and the correction the car is applying. So long as the alignment is "good enough" the car will compensate for minor deviations. It has short and long term correction factors, both of which alter as you drive. That is why the radar can go wrong if you drive round a very long gradual corner (on a motorway say) - the short term correction is thrown off and when the road straightens up it takes a little while for the car to bring the correction back again.

I had to realign my Golf mk7.5 radar after the mounting bracket got broken. It was pretty easy by just driving down a straight road and looking at the figures in OBD II, tweaking the alignment, repeat. It only took a couple of runs. The dealers do a static alignment which sometimes does not account for wheel/body alignment geometry.

 

[jds686868]

Has any Xpower owner actually done the lowered spring change (H&R lowered??)?
Interested in actual feedback.

 

[salty]

We know that H&R make lowering springs for the MG4 X Power, they have for a while now. But while having a nosey on fleabay. Noticed that someone, somewhere as a set in there basket, presumably to buy. And also says 2 sets have been sold.
So again someone, somewhere has them fitted to there X Power. Would love to see them fitted and there opinions on them. Mustn't be anyone on here, else we would've heard by now. Shame.
Meanwhile a couple of pics, from H&R. ?

Before.

After.

 

[Bricktop X PWR]

I think I've said before, I've held off as not to cloud the vibration issue should MG ever come to a solution???

It would look better without doubt, and I would be doing it purely for aesthetics.

I would also hope it made a bit of difference to the roll experienced in the corners when pushing on.

 

[powerfulx]

the Xpower is a strange beast. Its definitely easily unsettled when giving it the beans. I think of this model as similar to when they used to homologate rally cars. I used to own a Nissan GTIR , little pocket rockets of the 90s, that was a homologated point shoot car, it was not good on corners. Even when on coilovers, sway bars and wide sticky tyres. If anyone finds out how to turn off all the nannys ill be a happy man, it cuts a lot of fun. But has probably saved a few lives already First time for many in a 3 second car i am sure. Either way, i hope someone comes up with a fix for the vibrations, hopefully lowering helps.