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Well, the MG 3 handles this better. The assist screen has its own dedicated section of the display.
Hi Diwalt.Noel, what I wrote comes from my own experience and observations. Unfortunately, I'm afraid that this function hasn’t been described in the manual. I’ve been thinking that MG loses a lot by not including many things in the user manual. Many of the questions asked here or on other forums could have been avoided if these topics were properly covered in a well-written manual.
Many MG users currently drive or used to drive much older, less equipped cars, and for them, a clear and detailed manual would be very helpful. Personally, I also own another well-equipped car, and I don’t need to dive into the manual because all those features are present in other modern cars too (sometimes implemented better, sometimes worse than in MG).
I hope that MG will show willingness and initiative to significantly improve the user experience by releasing further updates and a more comprehensive manu
al.
Well, you simply have to drive in a way that avoids crossing the line (just kidding). Of course, it would be better if users were given the option to choose whether they want the screen to return to the default view. However, I assume this decision was driven by safety concerns, both due to legal requirements and a certain overzealousness on the part of car/device manufacturers — for example, speed limit alerts, lane keeping assist, or seatbelt warnings.
Hi Diwalt.
Regarding the MG ZS Hybrid+ manual. It is without doubt the worst manual I ever come across. At the risk of repetition, it appears that the manual is a direct translation from Chinese to English, possibly a product of AI, if not, it must’ve been transcribed by somebody with absolutely no knowledge of cars. It tries to combine manuals for at least two vehicles. Some pages display a graphic and text, the problem is that the text relating to the graphic is on the next page. Amazingly the entire section concerning the Navigation System is missing.
My ZS is at the dealership today, to have the light strip on the near side door ring mirror replaced, mine has water in it.
There is also a recall, to update various software.
I’m keeping my fingers crossed that the updates result in a positive outcome, and that a Graphic Equaliser will appear
Cheers Noel.
Hi Diwalt.
Regarding the MG ZS Hybrid+ manual. It is without doubt the worst manual I ever come across. At the risk of repetition, it appears that the manual is a direct translation from Chinese to English, possibly a product of AI, if not, it must’ve been transcribed by somebody with absolutely no knowledge of cars. It tries to combine manuals for at least two vehicles. Some pages display a graphic and text, the problem is that the text relating to the graphic is on the next page. Amazingly the entire section concerning the Navigation System is missing.
My ZS is at the dealership today, to have the light strip on the near side door ring mirror replaced, mine has water in it.
There is also a recall, to update various software.
I’m keeping my fingers crossed that the updates result in a positive outcome, and that a Graphic Equaliser will appear
Cheers Noel.
If your videos clearly show high revs going up hill that remain high for long periods of time… if they show high revs that remain high when the car is not on a steep incline… if they show a decrease in acceleration (certainly the most worrying and shouldn’t be a characteristic of any car)….. then I’d email this information to every consumer champion / journalist you can think of. However…. I would say they will only take up the story if they see clear evidence of the car loosing power while overtaking. I doubt the high revs alone will spark enough interest. But if you can clearly demonstrate the car de accelerating when you’re trying to overtake….. then that’s definitely a newsworthy story. As would be a defective car ploughing into a 30 tonne truck because it lost power while overtaking.Some interesting news for those of us still concerned with the over-revving issue.
I really enjoy the car but It's got to the point where I'm convinced there is a serious, intermittent, fault causing the over-revving. Not necessarily with every MG ZS Hybrid but certainly with mine.
I can fly up an incline or drive up with the engine screaming and revs over 4000+.
I can overtake with ease or over-rev on pulling out, lift foot off accelerator and lose speed due to regenerative braking, causing issues for anyone behind me.
So, I outlined all the issues to my dealer, sent them the videos, and invoked the Consumer Rights Act insisting on immediate repair, replacement or refund.
The dealer has responded "We have some news to share with you, we escalated the matter to MG Customer care as is the process with any queries of this nature, they have come back to us to confirm this is not a fault with the vehicle and instead a characteristic of the vehicle particularly when travelling uphill. They have confirmed it is not safety issue or mechanical driveability issue.
They have understood the feedback and taken this onboard and are constantly looking to improve driver experience.
Therefore due to this confirmation from the manufacturer the rejection would not be valid, however we would be happy to consider you part exchanging your vehicle if you did want to swap into another vehicle in the range."
So driving uphill at 4000+ revs for a few minutes is a characteristic and losing power when overtaking is not a safety issue.
Not sure what I should do now. Has anyone ever used the motor ombudsman?
To be honest, the higher revs doesn’t concern me to much. The Kona Hybrid hit higher revs if you were accelerating fairly rapidly. Most cars do. It’s the loss of acceleration you mention that concerns me. High revs shouldn’t cause loss in acceleration. The Kona maybe hit 4000 - 4500 when flooring it…. but that would be accompanied by rapid increase in speed. Then once you’ve accelerated up to speed it would immediately drop back to 2000ish.Thanks Mickel.
The videos are on this thread somewhere showing the constant over-revving uphill. One of them also shows a time where I had no acceleration and was overtaken by a transit and trailer.
The overtaking issue has happened twice but I cannot video all the time. My wife has to lean over and video the dashboard.
On the overtaking I may have misled you slightly.
Imagine driving uphill on a two lane motorway and you move out to overtake a van doing 65mph. As your passing at 70mph the car revs from 2000 to 5000. When the car revs this much any acceleration is obviously lost. Normal reaction is to lift the accelerator to settle the revs. But with the incline and the active brake regeneration the car will slow significantly. Thus you cannot overtake and you may have backed up a queue of cars behind you.
Then consider the same thing happening on a windy A road where your side by side with the car your trying to overtake and acceleration is lost.
Both occasions have happened to me and I found them pretty scary and dangerous.
Hi NicoSome interesting news for those of us still concerned with the over-revving issue.
I really enjoy the car but It's got to the point where I'm convinced there is a serious, intermittent, fault causing the over-revving. Not necessarily with every MG ZS Hybrid but certainly with mine.
I can fly up an incline or drive up with the engine screaming and revs over 4000+.
I can overtake with ease or over-rev on pulling out, lift foot off accelerator and lose speed due to regenerative braking, causing issues for anyone behind me.
So, I outlined all the issues to my dealer, sent them the videos, and invoked the Consumer Rights Act insisting on immediate repair, replacement or refund.
The dealer has responded "We have some news to share with you, we escalated the matter to MG Customer care as is the process with any queries of this nature, they have come back to us to confirm this is not a fault with the vehicle and instead a characteristic of the vehicle particularly when travelling uphill. They have confirmed it is not safety issue or mechanical driveability issue.
They have understood the feedback and taken this onboard and are constantly looking to improve driver experience.
Therefore due to this confirmation from the manufacturer the rejection would not be valid, however we would be happy to consider you part exchanging your vehicle if you did want to swap into another vehicle in the range."
So driving uphill at 4000+ revs for a few minutes is a characteristic and losing power when overtaking is not a safety issue.
Not sure what I should do now. Has anyone ever used the motor ombudsman?
If you don’t mind looking somewhat weird… you could buy a head mounted video camera from Amazon. Think you can get one for as little as £20 these days. Just search head mounted sports camera.Thanks Mickel.
The videos are on this thread somewhere showing the constant over-revving uphill. One of them also shows a time where I had no acceleration and was overtaken by a transit and trailer.
The overtaking issue has happened twice but I cannot video all the time. My wife has to lean over and video the dashboard.
On the overtaking I may have misled you slightly.
Imagine driving uphill on a two lane motorway and you move out to overtake a van doing 65mph. As your passing at 70mph the car revs from 2000 to 5000. When the car revs this much any acceleration is obviously lost. Normal reaction is to lift the accelerator to settle the revs. But with the incline and the active brake regeneration the car will slow significantly. Thus you cannot overtake and you may have backed up a queue of cars behind you.
Then consider the same thing happening on a windy A road where your side by side with the car your trying to overtake and acceleration is lost.
Both occasions have happened to me and I found them pretty scary and dangerous.