I think I have read enough.

[SteveP]

Firstly wow that’s deep secondly I think after 3 years of driving I think I know wether my car is a PHEV or not ??? and finally you really need to try a self charging hybrid you CAN drive on the electric motor at 70mph sorry you don’t agree

 

[Kithmo]

ISTR the 2016 Prius could do up to 45mph on electric only, but not for long.

A self charging hybrid seems to be the worst option when looking at electrification.

I agree to a certain extent, go BEV or don't bother, but I think PHEVs are the worst option, as you're constantly charging them to get the most out of the limited range or your lugging the plug-in battery about as extra weight when it runs out.
Someone I knew had the mark 1 Outlander and said he only got just over 40 mpg once the HV battery was depleted.

 

[Stuwit46]

I am seriously considering the new Hybrid Jazz. It uses an electric drive. The ICE is used to charge the battery and only provided traction at higher speeds. Seem to return tremendous mpg.

I had a hybrid c-hr Toyota last week for a few days, I didn’t like the way the engine noise wasn‘t relative to the speed....all a bit odd. It only did 50mpg too

 

[Keith Harris]

Had a Mitsubishi phev before my MG5 , great car but cost a fortune to run servicing alone was always around £500 + at dealers. Actually cost more to charge than my 5 over a week and then there’s petrol of course. Attempting my first long journey this week 600 miles or so away from home, will let you know how I fare. But as it stands I will never go back to a hybrid, phev or ice car.

 

[Bogrole]

Bring back the Ampera or mk1 Chevy Volt, loved mine and got over 1000 MPG out of it too on my regular commute. Servicing costs were low, plus the bonus of being able to go anywhere. I actually regret selling when I did.
Being a range extender you always had the EV torque and you could go as fast as you wanted on batteries, with no need for the engine (providing you had charge) .
Ahead of it's time in my book, but my MG ZS-EV is doing good too!

 

[SteveP]

Just to prove you can drive at 70mph on EV and not BS

 

[Jonhklee]

I wouldn’t be out off.... love my MG5 if a bit pedestrian....

 

[SteveP]

I wouldn’t be out off.... love my MG5 if a bit pedestrian....

I’m really looking forward to getting my ZSEV 4 weeks and counting

 

[catman]

I've had 2 Toyota Hybrids (Auris and Yaris) both were excellent, smooth and quiet cars. My overall average mpg was around 60 - 65 in both. The Yaris would generally kick in the ICE at 25-30 mph and the Auris 35-45. A small but significant taste of EV driving for me Just getting to grips with our new HS phev and so far, in auto mode, it's giving 43 mpg - granted that's without resetting the trip since getting it. Now I realise, I should be using EV mode most of the time and have just started to do so (wanting to "run-in" the ICE along with the rest of the car) so I'm expecting much better mpg. I'm also now really appreciating pure EV driving, so I think the next one will be pure EV (unless we ever see mass-market Hydrogen fuel-cell vehicles )

 

[Adee]

Has to be electric to save the world (at least until something better like hydrogen comes along). I used to get 60-70mpg from my diesel Clio which I bought in 2002 (I know diesel is a dirty word these days - probably explains why I'm a non-smoker and have COPD ). In terms of carbon footprint it seems to me that technology has gone backwards in the last 20yrs - at least until the latest generation of electric cars came along.

 

[Lovemyev]

it seems to me that technology has gone backwards in the last 20yrs - at least until the latest generation of electric cars came along.

I agree - we have Tesla to thank for bringing about the long over due push to EV driving.

 

[Adee]

I agree - we have Tesla to thank for bringing about the long over due push to EV driving.

Definitely. Musk is a visionary. He's already preparing to colonise other planets for when we completely fudge this one up. Seriously though, one motivated guy like this in government and we'd soon be in a better place. The only reason that we have made any progress in renewables has absolutely nothing to do with government intervention - it's because, following the initial investment, renewables are actually cheaper. Hence cheaper in the long term. In other words simple market forces are driving "clean" energy. Thank goodness the economics of renewables works out favourably, otherwise our reliance on fossil fuels would never be displaced.

 

[jem111111]

I've had 2 Toyota Hybrids (Auris and Yaris) both were excellent, smooth and quiet cars. My overall average mpg was around 60 - 65 in both. The Yaris would generally kick in the ICE at 25-30 mph and the Auris 35-45. A small but significant taste of EV driving for me Just getting to grips with our new HS phev and so far, in auto mode, it's giving 43 mpg - granted that's without resetting the trip since getting it. Now I realise, I should be using EV mode most of the time and have just started to do so (wanting to "run-in" the ICE along with the rest of the car) so I'm expecting much better mpg. I'm also now really appreciating pure EV driving, so I think the next one will be pure EV (unless we ever see mass-market Hydrogen fuel-cell vehicles )

I agree the hs phev is a great looking car in and out and so comfortable to drive. You need to work out the best way to use it for your circumstance, You can see my mileage I am getting in my post "whats your fuel economy"