MG4 X Power Vibe/Hum 65 to 75mph

[Everest]

Have you checked insurance for the Seal? IIRC (though may be out of date) I read it can be very expensive due to lack of parts/dealers hence due to high time/cost for repairs some insurers won't insure it?

 

[Darth Niloc]

Sorry I tried the quote reply function but it doesn't work on my phone so just replying to all.

I looked at a few different motors and had my heart set on either a Tesla Model 3 or BYD Seal. Then I read an article somewhere about this incredible MG X-Power and spent the next several days watching every review video I could find on YouTube. I went for a test drive and was sold.

I was all set to order the car this weekend. Hell I even signed up here in preparation of becoming the newest member of the X-Power gang. Then by chance I spotted this thread last night and 54 pages later I had done a complete U-turn.

After the experience some of you have had there is no way I would take the chance on this. Yes they seem to have fixed the vibration issue now on the latest models but I'm a big believer in accountability and integrity. This thread doesn't inspire either of those qualities in the MG brand.

So after my sidetrack into the world of X-Power I'm back to seriously looking at the BYD Seal again. It's a salary sacrifice deal so insurance and all is included. I just wanted to post here as I had my heart set on the X-Power and am mega disappointed it isn't going ahead but I just can't support a brand or company that behaves like this.

 

[salty]

So after my sidetrack into the world of X-Power I'm back to seriously looking at the BYD Seal again. It's a salary sacrifice deal so insurance and all is included. I just wanted to post here as I had my heart set on the X-Power and am mega disappointed it isn't going ahead but I just can't support a brand or company that behaves like this.

I can understand that. Are you going for the fast BYD Seal? Think they are 0-60 in less than 4 secs. If you do get it, stay on the Forum. As I and I'm sure others would like to see how the Seal performs. And don't forget plenty of Pics.

 

[Darth Niloc]

I can understand that. Are you going for the fast BYD Seal? Think they are 0-60 in less than 4 secs. If you do get it, stay on the Forum. As I and I'm sure others would like to see how the Seal performs. And don't forget plenty of Pics.

Yeah I'm looking at the 530bhp AWD version. 0-62 in 3.8 secs. Watched several videos and the Seal appears to be marginally quicker than the X-Power 0-60 and over the 1/4 mile.

The extra range of the Seal is also a winner for me as I think the X-Power would have struggled to complete the longest round trip I occasionally make on a single charge. Plus let's be honest it is a lot more car for an extra £10k!

Will definitely drop in again once I have the car and give you all an update.

Thanks,
Darth Niloc

 

[ilukey77]

Sorry I tried the quote reply function but it doesn't work on my phone so just replying to all.

I looked at a few different motors and had my heart set on either a Tesla Model 3 or BYD Seal. Then I read an article somewhere about this incredible MG X-Power and spent the next several days watching every review video I could find on YouTube. I went for a test drive and was sold.

I was all set to order the car this weekend. Hell I even signed up here in preparation of becoming the newest member of the X-Power gang. Then by chance I spotted this thread last night and 54 pages later I had done a complete U-turn.

After the experience some of you have had there is no way I would take the chance on this. Yes they seem to have fixed the vibration issue now on the latest models but I'm a big believer in accountability and integrity. This thread doesn't inspire either of those qualities in the MG brand.

So after my sidetrack into the world of X-Power I'm back to seriously looking at the BYD Seal again. It's a salary sacrifice deal so insurance and all is included. I just wanted to post here as I had my heart set on the X-Power and am mega disappointed it isn't going ahead but I just can't support a brand or company that behaves like this.

The proper fix does actually FIX the issue I can confirm that ..

And the mid 24 models on are fixed ..

The problem with it is MG uk seem to be not interested in sorting it for customers..

The worse part is MG as a company has been at best pathetic with fixing this issue which is more of a reason not to buy any MG car be it X power or any of their models for risk of the same behaviour!!!

 

[LenEV2016]

The proper fix does actually FIX the issue I can confirm that ..

And the mid 24 models on are fixed ..

The problem with it is MG uk seem to be not interested in sorting it for customers..

The worse part is MG as a company has been at best pathetic with fixing this issue which is more of a reason not to buy any MG car be it X power or any of their models for risk of the same behaviour!!!

Totally agree, there cars are decent the X power is great a little short on battery and little refinements, but that is down to cost.

It's MG UK's attitude and the issues with dealers that will prevent customers returning for another car

 

[ilukey77]

Totally agree, there cars are decent the X power is great a little short on battery and little refinements, but that is down to cost.

It's MG UK's attitude and the issues with dealers that will prevent customers returning for another car

Is it MG uk or is it MG MG I don’t know..

My dealer got on to there MG Australia rep and it was sorted yes it took some time for parts and the fix..

But it was fixed!

Now who pays the bill I don’t know

Even under warranty is it MG MG or is it MG uk I don’t know ..

Makes sense that if MG uk have to pay the bill they are reluctant in doing so for overall cost

Doesn’t make it right but I would say there would be more volume of X powers sold throughout uk than Australia ..

Likely deal could be you buy the cars off MG China MG whatever country is responsible for everything else!!

 

[Bricktop X PWR]

Yeah I'm looking at the 530bhp AWD version. 0-62 in 3.8 secs. Watched several videos and the Seal appears to be marginally quicker than the X-Power 0-60 and over the 1/4 mile.

The extra range of the Seal is also a winner for me as I think the X-Power would have struggled to complete the longest round trip I occasionally make on a single charge. Plus let's be honest it is a lot more car for an extra £10k!

Will definitely drop in again once I have the car and give you all an update.

Thanks,
Darth Niloc

Oh dear.

You won't be faster than me then.

0 to 60 in 3.51 seconds.

I may of mentioned it once or twice on here.

IMO, you are absolutely doing the right thing.

Not only have you taken the time to do your research, but have also taken fully on board MG UKs disgusting attitude to existing, unhappy X Power Customers.

I still can't believe the way I have been fobbed off by some faceless twonk via email, coupled with shrugged shoulders and clueless looks from the dealer network.

It's such a shame because the X Power is an excellent package, and not just for the money, it's fits into my life very well.

It's just always irked me with the vibe issue and continues to do so.

Looking forward to hearing about your SEAL.

Do come back and give us the full lowdown when you get it.

Oh and piccies.

We love piccies on here.

 

[Tuareg]

According to user reports and reviews, some common issues with the BYD Seal include: a heavily reliant touchscreen interface making driving adjustments difficult, inconsistent regenerative braking, concerns about suspension quality leading to a bouncy ride, occasional issues with door handles and locking mechanisms, complaints about the car's infotainment system, and potential delays in acceleration response; with some owners also reporting problems with inconsistent delivery dates and customer service in certain regions.

Key points about BYD Seal problems:

• Touchscreen dependence:
  Many functions are controlled through the large touchscreen, making it difficult to adjust settings while driving.
  
  
• • Suspension concerns:
    The suspension setup can feel soft, causing a bouncy ride on uneven roads.
  • Unreliable features:
    Some users report issues with door handles not releasing properly, charge flap malfunctions, and random emergency braking incidents.
  • Software glitches:
    Occasional glitches with infotainment systems and driver assistance features
  • Customer service issues:
    Some owners have reported difficulties reaching customer support or receiving timely assistance with issues.

 

[ilukey77]

According to user reports and reviews, some common issues with the BYD Seal include: a heavily reliant touchscreen interface making driving adjustments difficult, inconsistent regenerative braking, concerns about suspension quality leading to a bouncy ride, occasional issues with door handles and locking mechanisms, complaints about the car's infotainment system, and potential delays in acceleration response; with some owners also reporting problems with inconsistent delivery dates and customer service in certain regions.

Key points about BYD Seal problems:

• Touchscreen dependence:
  Many functions are controlled through the large touchscreen, making it difficult to adjust settings while driving.
  
  
• • Suspension concerns:
    The suspension setup can feel soft, causing a bouncy ride on uneven roads.
  • Unreliable features:
    Some users report issues with door handles not releasing properly, charge flap malfunctions, and random emergency braking incidents.
  • Software glitches:
    Occasional glitches with infotainment systems and driver assistance features
  • Customer service issues:
    Some owners have reported difficulties reaching customer support or receiving timely assistance with issues.

I personally dont like the door handles that sit in side the body atleast with the mg you can always open with manual door handles ..

The seal is like 15k better inside than the MG4 be it X power or not the BYD's in general are more fancy ..

Software glitches are part of any car more so on EV's X power is not a stranger to glitches it has its fair share but a hold of the home button and a reset usually fixes them ..

Suspension softness is BYD making a generic set up for all countries and conditions alot of other companies usually tune the suspension for the country they are going to be sold in ..

Thats the problem with most Chinese brands when it comes to Customer service be it lost in translation or just well CBF service ( CBF couldnt be F ed ) ..

100% let us know once you get your BYD as im thinking my next car may be a BYD but something left field the shark ..

Why well i may swap the MG4 hatch for something i can tow a caravan around AUS ..

 

[Tuareg]

According to reports from BYD Seal owners and reviews, a common complaint regarding the car's emergency braking system is that it can be overly sensitive, leading to "phantom braking" where the car unexpectedly applies the brakes in seemingly benign situations, often causing discomfort and potential safety concerns due to sudden decelerations in traffic or on the highway; this issue is often attributed to potential calibration problems with the sensors in the advanced driver assistance system (ADAS) that governs the emergency braking function.

BYD Seal vibrations, experienced at lower speeds which means most of the time:

"However as soon as leaving the showroom I noticed a strong vibration / roughness through the steering wheel, as if I was driving over a rough graveled road, when the road was actually pretty smooth. Some reviews refer to this as well."

"I reported to the car dealer that the steering was pulling to a side the first week I got the car.
Since then, the car was sent three times for: wheels alignment, wheel replacement and axle replacement. This last spare part was brought from China.
The vibration was reduced but the steering still pull to the same side.

So I can confirm I have a similar issue."

Seal Steering Vibration

Seal Steering Vibration Main BYD Seal chat - BYD Forum

www.bydowners.com

 

[Muffler]

Totally agree about MG / MG UK and numerous Dealers not being on the side of the customer when it comes to responding to and addressing issues. Not that it's right, but you tend to semi-ignore that if it simply comes down to budget/affordability... and, MG does finally seem to have made progress resolving some of these matters with later-built models and long-awaited software updates.

Mine is a Nov '23 build date and appears to have the initial steering damper solution - an additional low rumble to normal road noise is detectable around the documented 'vibes' window along with very minor feedback on the steering. Noting that I spend comparatively little time within that speed zone, coupled with it being barely noticeable, it honestly hasn't been a major concern for me. Add-in the more recent AC/ACC/LKA software releases and what was already good has become a lot better.

Yes, the BYD Seal looks a very good package, but it will still have problems and in reality the cost difference isn't £10k but more like £20k, due to the massive discounts on permanent offer by MG. It also attracts the higher VED rate (less of a problem if leasing/PCP but payments will still increase accordingly). That and more specifically, that the Seal is a Saloon (far less practicality) would still seal the deal for me (pun intended) - XPower all the way.

 

[LenEV2016]

Totally agree about MG / MG UK and numerous Dealers not being on the side of the customer when it comes to responding to and addressing issues. Not that it's right, but you tend to semi-ignore that if it simply comes down to budget/affordability... and, MG does finally seem to have made progress resolving some of these matters with later-built models and long-awaited software updates.

Mine is a Nov '23 build date and appears to have the initial steering damper solution - an additional low rumble to normal road noise is detectable around the documented 'vibes' window along with very minor feedback on the steering. Noting that I spend comparatively little time within that speed zone, coupled with it being barely noticeable, it honestly hasn't been a major concern for me. Add-in the more recent AC/ACC/LKA software releases and what was already good has become a lot better.

Yes, the BYD Seal looks a very good package, but it will still have problems and in reality the cost difference isn't £10k but more like £20k, due to the massive discounts on permanent offer by MG. It also attracts the higher VED rate (less of a problem if leasing/PCP but payments will still increase accordingly). That and more specifically, that the Seal is a Saloon (far less practicality) would still seal the deal for me (pun intended) - XPower all the way.

I agree, said it numerous times bang for buck nothing comes close, the fact that a car with that performance is under the £40k luxury car tax is outstanding.

Could it have done with a bit bigger battery, yes.

Could it have had a bit better equipment and still kept it under the £40 k threshold yes. Better tyres, seats, stereo and interior lighting would not have taken it above that

The only real negative is the manufacturer dealer backup

 

[Everest]

Yeah I'm looking at the 530bhp AWD version. 0-62 in 3.8 secs. Watched several videos and the Seal appears to be marginally quicker than the X-Power 0-60 and over the 1/4 mile.

So, for everyone's diary:
Date: September 2025
Location: Spa, Ardennes, Belgium
Participants: @Bricktop X PWR vs. @Darth Niloc
Chariots; XPower vs. Seal
Course: 5 laps.

Prizes;
a) overall winner
b) fastest lap
c) highest speed through Eau Rouge

or should that be a bag of

 

[salty]

So, for everyone's diary:
Date: September 2025
Location: Spa, Ardennes, Belgium
Participants: @Bricktop X PWR vs. @Darth Niloc
Chariots; XPower vs. Seal
Course: 5 laps.

Prizes;
a) overall winner
b) fastest lap
c) highest speed through Eau Rouge

or should that be a bag of

Tenner on Chris.

 

[Bricktop X PWR]

Tenner on Chris.

WOT.

Have you not seen that X Power overheating at the Nurburgring??

5 laps my butthole.

Might trust it with a couple of laps of Castle Combe, but not SPA!

And I should know.

I caned the life out of my VXR8 there a few years ago....

What a track!

What a car!!!

 

[salty]

Ok, fiver then.

 

[ilukey77]

Totally agree about MG / MG UK and numerous Dealers not being on the side of the customer when it comes to responding to and addressing issues. Not that it's right, but you tend to semi-ignore that if it simply comes down to budget/affordability... and, MG does finally seem to have made progress resolving some of these matters with later-built models and long-awaited software updates.

Mine is a Nov '23 build date and appears to have the initial steering damper solution - an additional low rumble to normal road noise is detectable around the documented 'vibes' window along with very minor feedback on the steering. Noting that I spend comparatively little time within that speed zone, coupled with it being barely noticeable, it honestly hasn't been a major concern for me. Add-in the more recent AC/ACC/LKA software releases and what was already good has become a lot better.

Yes, the BYD Seal looks a very good package, but it will still have problems and in reality the cost difference isn't £10k but more like £20k, due to the massive discounts on permanent offer by MG. It also attracts the higher VED rate (less of a problem if leasing/PCP but payments will still increase accordingly). That and more specifically, that the Seal is a Saloon (far less practicality) would still seal the deal for me (pun intended) - XPower all the way.

The problem is and maybe I have more of a invested interest in making sure my X power was fixed ( I own mine ) no lease no loan I own it outright..

I’m not angry at people who say MEH I can live with it ( we all have that choice )

But this day and age people /companies dont give two sh..ts about customers or other people if they can screw you over without repercussions they will try

This is exactly what’s happening here .

That is why I urge people to fight and why I did it’s the bully philosophy turn around and punch a bully hard in the nose they’re less likely to try it again ..

 

[Darth Niloc]

BYD Seal vibrations, experienced at lower speeds which means most of the time:

"However as soon as leaving the showroom I noticed a strong vibration / roughness through the steering wheel, as if I was driving over a rough graveled road, when the road was actually pretty smooth. Some reviews refer to this as well."

"I reported to the car dealer that the steering was pulling to a side the first week I got the car.
Since then, the car was sent three times for: wheels alignment, wheel replacement and axle replacement. This last spare part was brought from China.
The vibration was reduced but the steering still pull to the same side.

So I can confirm I have a similar issue."

Seal Steering Vibration

Seal Steering Vibration Main BYD Seal chat - BYD Forum

www.bydowners.com

Thanks I have been reading some recent reports about vibration in the BYD Seal as well which is new info since I last did my research on the car. I even joined a German BYD owners forum yesterday to try and find out more, but the format of the site didn't work well with my auto translate and my mastery of the German tongue is non existent . Will keep searching as I need to get an order placed asap.

Totally agree about MG / MG UK and numerous Dealers not being on the side of the customer when it comes to responding to and addressing issues. Not that it's right, but you tend to semi-ignore that if it simply comes down to budget/affordability... and, MG does finally seem to have made progress resolving some of these matters with later-built models and long-awaited software updates.

Mine is a Nov '23 build date and appears to have the initial steering damper solution - an additional low rumble to normal road noise is detectable around the documented 'vibes' window along with very minor feedback on the steering. Noting that I spend comparatively little time within that speed zone, coupled with it being barely noticeable, it honestly hasn't been a major concern for me. Add-in the more recent AC/ACC/LKA software releases and what was already good has become a lot better.

Yes, the BYD Seal looks a very good package, but it will still have problems and in reality the cost difference isn't £10k but more like £20k, due to the massive discounts on permanent offer by MG. It also attracts the higher VED rate (less of a problem if leasing/PCP but payments will still increase accordingly). That and more specifically, that the Seal is a Saloon (far less practicality) would still seal the deal for me (pun intended) - XPower all the way.

The price for an X-Power was £38k on my list versus the BYD Seal AWD at £49k. Salary sacrifice so everything is included. I drive a saloon at present which is perfect for what I need. Believe me I am as disappointed as anyone as after seeing it I had my heart set on an X-Power. Even still this weekend my heart is telling me just to go for it and my head is telling me don't. So the internal battle continues lol

I really need an order placed for something as I am getting raped by the taxman and joining this scheme will drop me down a bracket. It pretty much pays for itself with the tax savings before I factor into it the running costs of my ICE. I drive a heavily tuned 330d which is an incredible car and I love her to pieces but she is costing me a fortune in running costs. Nothing has really gone wrong with her ever but she is getting close to the 100k miles mark now and that's when things will start to break lol

The problem is and maybe I have more of a invested interest in making sure my X power was fixed ( I own mine ) no lease no loan I own it outright..

I’m not angry at people who say MEH I can live with it ( we all have that choice )

But this day and age people /companies dont give two sh..ts about customers or other people if they can screw you over without repercussions they will try

This is exactly what’s happening here .

That is why I urge people to fight and why I did it’s the bully philosophy turn around and punch a bully hard in the nose they’re less likely to try it again ..

Agree 100%. Some here (including me ) might think I am being daft by deciding against an X-Power especially now the vibration problem has been fixed and I wasn't even affected by it. But what if some other problem happens with the new model and they pull the same trick again?

Same reason why I will never buy another Ford. Wife bought a new Fiesta several years ago. Wheels were constantly buckled, forums full of owners saying the same thing. It was found that the alloy they used was crap but Ford refused to admit there was an issue.

The only way to fight back against big companies is with your wallet. Refuse to spend another penny with them ever. Eventually when they piss enough people off they will cease to be a big company anymore.

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Lovely motor

 

[Darth Niloc]

These are the options...

The BYD Seal AWD (530bhp)

The Kia 6 (only 325bhp and way more expensive so not really an option)

The Hyundai Ioniq 5 N (It's a bit much I think)

And finally the X-Power for comparison.

I quoted the wrong figures above. X-Power has a list price of £36,500 vs the Seal at £48,500. 12 grand of a difference but overall the Seal is only £100 a month more expensive than the X-Power.