Newbie questions

[Deleted member 9909]

You won't even get the full 7 or 11 due to losses at the inverter. This is across most EV inverters and worse when they get warm. Fact of life so hey ho not a issue really...

 

[Oberoy]

I have never been convinced that the UK LR models can only do 7kW and it is a mistake. Why would the manual state 11kW and delivered cars consistently be able to achieve that?

Yep only time and deliveries will tell and my Trophy that has arrived at the dealership yesterday has 11kw. I'm starting to think 11kw is the LR/Trophy expected standard, no bad thing if it is.
At home obviously, I only have 7kw at home as will all but the very few with 3phase, whereas at work I have faster available and so it will benefit me there with a purchased lead. Slighly frustrated with the 7kw type2 I have currently been offered with the car, so pushing for a granny in place of this for emergencies, I will be buying a 22kw type 2 lead.

 

[tsedge]

Yep only time and deliveries will tell and my Trophy that has arrived at the dealership yesterday has 11kw. I'm starting to think 11kw is the LR/Trophy expected standard, no bad thing if it is.
At home obviously, I only have 7kw at home as will all but the very few with 3phase, whereas at work I have faster available and so it will benefit me there with a purchased lead. Slighly frustrated with the 7kw type2 I have currently been offered with the car, so pushing for a granny in place of this for emergencies, I will be buying a 22kw type 2 lead.

Yes, I am hoping they might be bundling granny leads by the time my car is available so that I don't end up with two Type2 leads.

 

[AndyM]

I seem to have the 11kw charger on my Trophy but only the supplied single phase cable. If I'm ever away from the home charger I will likely be using DC chargers so I'm not currently inclined to pick up a 3 phase cable. In summary 7 or 11 makes no difference to me in practice.

 

[tsedge]

I seem to have the 11kw charger on my Trophy but only the supplied single phase cable. If I'm ever away from the home charger I will likely be using DC chargers so I'm not currently inclined to pick up a 3 phase cable. In summary 7 or 11 makes no difference to me in practice.

Yes, if you are well served for rapid DC chargers this makes sense. There are very few where I live and most are AC, so being able to take 11kW when available will make a difference.

 

[Deleted member 9909]

To me the only real benefit is away from home. If all dc chargers are full and a higher rated ac charger is available it does provide some kind of fall back option albeit not brilliant.

Alan

 

[Chr1sB]

Wow - thanks for all the quick constructive replies. The car is charging at the moment so will check the pins later. I suspect though that it is just the 7kw cable. Thanks very much everyone.

Update : Just checked … the two pins are missing ie it’s a 7kw cable.

I have a Trophy LR for the person that asked

 

[Jto]

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Hi
have a look at the link to a MG video and have you done this.

 

[Deleted member 9909]

Hi
have a look at the link to a MG video and have you done this.

? The person who raised this query resolved it using previous info

Alan

 

[Jto]

? The person who raised this query resolved it using previous info

Alan

Thanks

 

[Oberoy]

Wow - thanks for all the quick constructive replies. The car is charging at the moment so will check the pins later. I suspect though that it is just the 7kw cable. Thanks very much everyone.

Update : Just checked … the two pins are missing ie it’s a 7kw cable.

I have a Trophy LR for the person that asked

So the cable is limited to 7kw, as you have a trophy I assume the pins are present in the cars charge port. That being the case, you have an 11kw onboard charger. If you purchased a 3 phase 32amp cable you would get 11kw from a suitable charger. Note that these leads are quite a bit thicker and slightly less flexible. Note you could get 11kw from a 3phase 16 amp cable I believe though if you used that on a 7kw 32 amp charger you would only get a 3.4kw charge.
Though it's your choice as to this being worthwhile depending on how often you would get a higher rate charge and is the small boost to rate would benefit you.

 

[Jomarkh]

Can I ask, the 4's with 11kW charging, does that mean they charge at 3.6kWh per phase using a 3 phase 32A cable?
If you use the same cable on a single phase 32A EVSE does the car then charge at 7kWh?

 

[Deleted member 9909]

To the first question is yes 3 × 3.65 approx phased on l1, l2 and l3 pins on the charger, cable and car provide 11kw to the ac/dc inverter

The basic answer to the second is yes, the 3 phase cable can be used on any single phase charger and will deliver 7kw to the car only using the l1 connection.

Alan