Did I achieve 200 miles range ?

[JodyS21]

I did read somewhere that India’s measuring system is different so the same battery is recorded as giving more mileage.

That's the WLTP "equivalent" test they used in India that causes a different advertised range.
Plus, for the "new" version of the ZS they're now advertising over there with the new "high tech battery" (lol), they have used a different test which is why it miraculously has a higher range now...

 

[JodyS21]

My accumulated creeps up a bit more above the current each day, even on the first day 6 miles after resetting, the current was at 3.6 and the accumulated at 3.9.
I've given up trying to fathom the wonders of Chinese maths.

I'll write up the results of a test I've done recently, but in summary.
I believe the reason the current journey's do not "add up" to the accumulated trip, is because I think that the accumulated is recalculating based on the actual total battery SoC used - hard to explain, but the battery can report a SoC of X when you've finished your trip, then later/next day without anything happening it can be different - e.g. if you do multiple journeys during the week, the amount of battery each journey used added together, is different to the amount of battery used based on its SoC at the start and end of the week.
(Plus the constant rounding of figures doesn't help).

 

[Lobogris]

That's the WLTP "equivalent" test they used in India that causes a different advertised range.
Plus, for the "new" version of the ZS they're now advertising over there with the new "high tech battery" (lol), they have used a different test which is why it miraculously has a higher range now...

As you stated correctly, it is only marketing hype. There is no difference in the current model vs the previous one in regards to the battery or its range. Only the ground clearance was increased. In India, a government body named ARAI tests all vehicles for mileage and the manufacturers are mandated to advertise only those figures. However, somehow MG startes using a different test to claim a higher range from March this year.

The main reason was the fact that the Indian company Tata sells a Nexon EV which is much cheaper at around £11,000 after government subsidy while the MG comes in at close to £25,000. The Nexon advertises a range of 312kms while the MG was 320kms. So a lot of people were buying the Tata Nexon as they saw nearly identical range. So MG had to do something to justify the higher price tag. Thus they came up with an hitherto unknown test to claim over 400kms of range and obviously had to allude to some "improvements" in the battery.

 

[Paulie68]

You guys have really low range in the UK for some reason. It might be due to the weather and faster overall speeds. Here in India, using the same UK imported vehicle, I can easily get 400 to even 425 kms which is almost 265 miles. This is with aircon usage near the red mark and at a highway speed of around 50 miles per hour but driven very gently. I have done several such trips and actually a lot of people in India report way over 200 miles of range. The temperature during the trip was between 30 to 37C. In winter, I expect even higher mileage as there will be no aircon usage.

Temperature makes a huge difference to range, also a speed of about 50 on the highway is great for range. Even allowing for this though, your range seems exceptionally good.

 

[Lobogris]

Temperature makes a huge difference to range, also a speed of about 50 on the highway is great for range. Even allowing for this though, your range seems exceptionally good.

50 mph was the average speed. Sometimes I was at 60 as well but mostly closer to and sometimes below 50 due to slowdowns. A lot of people in India repot similar or even better range. I think the temperature, no usage of heating and slower speeds make a difference. Average speed on UK motorways is around 70 to 80mph whereas in India, it is around 50 except on certain newer expressways where it is around 60 to 70 mph. I am not talking of speed limits alone. I am referring to actual speeds.

 

[Pict]

50 mph was the average speed. Sometimes I was at 60 as well but mostly closer to and sometimes below 50 due to slowdowns. A lot of people in India repot similar or even better range. I think the temperature, no usage of heating and slower speeds make a difference. Average speed on UK motorways is around 70 to 80mph whereas in India, it is around 50 except on certain newer expressways where it is around 60 to 70 mph. I am not talking of speed limits alone. I am referring to actual speeds.

The average speed on the UK network is not much more than 58mph.

Average speed, delay and reliability of travel times (CGN)

Data on the average speed, delay and reliability of travel times on the Strategic Road Network (SRN) and local 'A' roads, produced by Department for Transport.

www.gov.uk

There is an anomaly around the end of 2020 due to covid restrictions meaning less traffic on the roads

 

[Lobogris]

My DTE range keeps improving as I keep driving. 437km is around 275 miles.

 

[BarryH]

We won’t be so pleased in the winter with mine dropping to about 130 miles range max on the same type of trip. ??

I'd agree (having driven the ZS since January 2020and so 2 winters) that in winter the realistic figure would be 130 not that you would want to use the full 130 miles. A full charge would normally show between 133 and 140 miles soon dropping to below 130 when you drive away and you draw power from the battery. I'm hoping the practical range will have improved by the time we get into this coming winter because since last year there has been a major BMS update that has set the operating voltage window of the ZS battery pack to a different point what improved the real-world-range in the summer.

Whatever the range you get in winter or in summer I still think Octopus Go represents the best option for the EV owner, particularly when using a timed 4-hour charge to add approximately 100 miles. To share £100 with me (50:50), use my link and go to
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[mj224]

In Eco mode, predicted range is 195 miles, temp is in high teens, and of course all local mileage....

 

[JodyS21]

I'd agree (having driven the ZS since January 2020and so 2 winters) that in winter the realistic figure would be 130 not that you would want to use the full 130 miles. A full charge would normally show between 133 and 140 miles soon dropping to below 130 when you drive away and you draw power from the battery. I'm hoping the practical range will have improved by the time we get into this coming winter because since last year there has been a major BMS update that has set the operating voltage window of the ZS battery pack to a different point what improved the real-world-range in the summer.

Whatever the range you get in winter or in summer I still think Octopus Go represents the best option for the EV owner, particularly when using a timed 4-hour charge to add approximately 100 miles. To share £100 with me (50:50), use my link and go to
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The new BMS has not altered the range/available battery capacity available, so will not have any affect on this.

 

[Kithmo]

I was wondering if the new BMS could actually give maybe a couple of extra miles, due to the fact that you're getting a bit of regen earlier. Assuming the bottom buffer on the battery has moved down the same as the top.

 

[Lobogris]

Routinely get way over 200 miles. Around 250 to 275 is quite normal. This is with aircon. Hoping for even better performance during the winter months when there would be no aircon usage
NB winter is relatively mild for us.

 

[Ron61]

This is my average in mixed driving. Very impressed with the MG5. 4.8 x 48.9 useable battery = 234 miles on a full charge.

 

[JodyS21]

I was wondering if the new BMS could actually give maybe a couple of extra miles, due to the fact that you're getting a bit of regen earlier. Assuming the bottom buffer on the battery has moved down the same as the top.

Good point, yes in theory it will generate a tiny bit more regen at max charge for the first couple of mins. Realistically though it wouldn’t even be enough for 1 mile extra unfortunately

 

[Edoc16]

Very nice stories about trips and range...keep em coming. ?

( I bet your average ICE driver doesn't half as much fun....too busy thinking about his next fuel bill)

or where to buy it !!!

 

[BarryH]

I'd agree (having driven the ZS since January 2020and so 2 winters) that in winter the realistic figure would be 130 not that you would want to use the full 130 miles. A full charge would normally show between 133 and 140 miles soon dropping to below 130 when you drive away and you draw power from the battery. I'm hoping the practical range will have improved by the time we get into this coming winter because since last year there has been a major BMS update that has set the operating voltage window of the ZS battery pack to a different point what improved the real-world-range in the summer.

Whatever the range you get in winter or in summer I still think Octopus Go represents the best option for the EV owner, particularly when using a timed 4-hour charge to add approximately 100 miles. To share £100 with me (50:50), use my link and go to
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Now that the weather has turned the corner and mornings are much cooler around 9-15C my range showing after my Friday night Equalisation charge was 167 miles on 'N' and 177 'Eco'.

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