VIBRATION ISSUE - hot off the press!

I may have miss heard Miles but I thought he said the fix the bulletin talked about didn't make a difference on British roads so the UK won't be using it.

I may be wrong but I thought I heard that

Yes he did cite British Roads in that sentence m8 but what a load of tosh!

Here's the facts as I see them.

There is a vibration problem.

Dampener came first. No cure.(sticking plaster at best)

A fully documented factory attempt to relocate various suspension components designed, drawn, distributed.

This has also failed, it won't be tried in the UK because It Won't Work On Our Roads?
Nope.
Because it has been fitted to an X Power and makes no difference, so of course it won't work on our roads or any roads!

To quote Miles from last night...

"It is not something being explored for UK roads, the reason for this is that it is unsuccessful in reducing the characteristic, and therefore no actual point in doing it"

So we are, were we are.

No further on.

MG will continue to Kick The Can, Down The Road.
 
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Yes he did cite British Roads in that sentence m8 but what a load of tosh!

Here's the facts as I see them.

There is a vibration problem.

Dampener came first. No cure.(sticking plaster at best)

A fully documented factory attempt to relocate various suspension components designed, drawn, distributed.

This has also failed, it won't be tried in the UK because It Won't Work On Our Roads?
Nope.
Because it has been fitted to an X Power and makes no difference, so of course it won't work on our roads or any roads!

To quote Miles from last night...

"It is not something being explored for UK roads, the reason for this is that it is unsuccessful in reducing the characteristic, and therefore no actual point in doing it"

So we are were we are.
So the end of the (UK) road for a fix then.
 
My understanding is:
  • It is a resonant vibration.
  • These can be designed out, but you can't redesign cars already on the road.
  • It has been designed out of new XPowers.
  • For those with the problem, mitigation is the only option.
  • The steering damper helps some, this is available.
  • The driveshaft change failed in MG road testing (not in the factory and not with customers but with MG's UK engineering department), so it has been dropped.

It isn't clear if there will be another attempt to fix or not, we will see. They have tried twice, they may well try again.
 
My understanding is:
  • It is a resonant vibration.
  • These can be designed out, but you can't redesign cars already on the road.
  • It has been designed out of new XPowers.
  • For those with the problem, mitigation is the only option.
  • The steering damper helps some, this is available.
  • The driveshaft change failed in MG road testing (not in the factory and not with customers but with MG's UK engineering department), so it has been dropped.

It isn't clear if there will be another attempt to fix or not, we will see. They have tried twice, they may well try again.

Yes forgot about the driveshaft.

But it's specifically the relocation of suspension components that was the great hope and which doesn't work.
According to MG that was that, and they are not looking to try again hence the final step which for me was litigation through reject my car.

Myself and others have been incredibly patient but the last straw was when MG decided that we would have to live with the characteristic.

But......um....later cars don't have this so called characteristic!!!

So MG, Let's call a Spade a Spade.

It is a design/component fault in early production and we will not accept it.
 
Yes forgot about the driveshaft.

But it's specifically the relocation of suspension components that was the great hope and which doesn't work.
According to MG that was that and they are not looking to try again hence the final step witch for me was litigation through reject my car.

Myself and others have been incredibly patient but the last straw was when MG decided that we would have to live with the characteristic.

But......um....later cars don't have this so called characteristic!!!

So MG, Let's call a Spade a Spade.

It is a design fault in early production and we will not accept it.
I don't believe MG have said: "That's it, we won't do more.".

Although they have said it isn't a fault, it is a characteristic, they have also said that customer satisfaction matters to them. If they were disinterested there would never have been these two attempts to fix.

I think it is a case of them not wanting to say anything more until they have another option.

That may never happen, we will see.

A third party solution may appear, we will see.
 
I have it very clearly in writing from my dealer this week that as it currently stands, MG / SAIC are not actively working on a fix for this characteristic. That's pretty clear to me.
Yes, I believe they have to say that because it is not deemed a fault (by them), or everyone would demand an immediate fix.

As I say, they may try again, they are not entirely deaf to feedback or legal action.
 
Yes, I believe they have to say that because it is not deemed a fault (by them), or everyone would demand an immediate fix.

As I say, they may try again, they are not entirely deaf to feedback or legal action.

I hope and want them to try again!
I bloody love my car.
It's the perfect size for this household.
Has a suitable amount of power to keep me happy.
I've no issues with any of the software anymore.
A year of being an owner has seen my navigate around some of the idiosyncrasies of the vehicle, to a point where it is all second nature.

Cheap to insure, cheap to run, goes like a stabbed rat when required, what's not to like?
(Don't answer that, I know the answer)

Caveat: No rats were harmed in the making of this waffle.

Notoriously difficult to creep up on, let alone stab the bugger!
 
Yes, I believe they have to say that because it is not deemed a fault (by them), or everyone would demand an immediate fix.

As I say, they may try again, they are not entirely deaf to feedback or legal action.

But surely to try and appease customers & the media storm, they would at least state they are exploring options (if that was indeed true or at least planned) rather than put in writing that no further development is planned?

I'm with Bricktop on this - we love the car in nearly all aspects except for this 'characteristic' so just want a fix or reassurance that it is at least being looked into - at the moment I have neither.
 
But surely to try and appease customers & the media storm, they would at least state they are exploring options (if that was indeed true or at least planned) rather than put in writing that no further development is planned?

I'm with Bricktop on this - we love the car in nearly all aspects except for this 'characteristic' so just want a fix or reassurance that it is at least being looked into - at the moment I have neither.
I wish they would, there is SO much that simple basic open communication would do to help customers and change perceptions of MG.

But it seems it is not their way. Unknown if this comes from China or local management.
 
The problem is UK roads, if you tried to do 75mph on an Australian road, if the law didn't get you, the fact there are not many bits of road smooth enough to be able to identify a resonant vibration from the harmonics caused by B triple trucks with 700 +hp and tyre tearing torque creating ripples in the concrete road surface ....... so, fix the problem by getting rid of those smooth roads that you can actually identify a problem within the car .... ;) :ROFLMAO:

T1 Terry
 
I wonder if the fix isn’t endorsable by MG but could be lowering the suspension or a change in geometry that ultimately will incur multiple side effects such as say increased tyre wear or rolling resistance, and therefore can’t be considered a fix?
It unfortunately does require someone to be willing to spend their hard earned and investigate independently.

On my new bass, due to its design, there’s a resonance issue which is very evident on the 5th fret of the G string. The fix involves a weight on the headstock in a particular spot. This shifts the resonance somewhere else which is less noticeable.
 
I wonder if the fix isn’t endorsable by MG but could be lowering the suspension or a change in geometry that ultimately will incur multiple side effects such as say increased tyre wear or rolling resistance, and therefore can’t be considered a fix?
It unfortunately does require someone to be willing to spend their hard earned and investigate independently.
Who's to say that fitting lowering springs. And getting the Geometry absolutely spot on. Wont cure the Vibe?
Any Guinea Pigs? 😉🙂👍
 
I wonder if the fix isn’t endorsable by MG but could be lowering the suspension or a change in geometry that ultimately will incur multiple side effects such as say increased tyre wear or rolling resistance, and therefore can’t be considered a fix?
It unfortunately does require someone to be willing to spend their hard earned and investigate independently.

On my new bass, due to its design, there’s a resonance issue which is very evident on the 5th fret of the G string. The fix involves a weight on the headstock in a particular spot. This shifts the resonance somewhere else which is less noticeable.

Well all I know is putting considerable weight in the drivers seat certainly doesn't shift the resonance to anywhere unnoticeable :ROFLMAO:
 
Any idea from what build date ?

It would be at least good of MG to tell us this rather than silence 🤷‍♂️
God knows. 🤔
I've Heard from November 2023.
Then All 2024 models are ok.
I've since read, from March 2024.
And yet some early 2023 models are ok.
So probably no one actually knows.
It's literally Pot Luck. 🤪
Would like to think all 2024 models would be ok. 🙂👍
 
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