Speeding. ?☹

Done for speeding at the end of February.
And let me make this clear straight off.
No excuses, was speeding, got caught, got done. End of. 🙄
87 mph on a 60 mph road.
East Lancs Rd (Dual carriageway)
No Cameras, No speed van. So I'm presuming probably a Motorcycle Cop, parked up on foot. I've saw a few lately.
But that's irrelevant, really. To be honest I think you're just unlucky if you get caught.
Got the notice to prosecute letter. It said too serious for the usual instant fine/points. Would have to go to the Magistrates court. 🙄 Got the result yesterday. 6 points on licence and £156 costs, consisting of £40 fine and £116 costs. So 9 points total on licence. 🙄
Have to say, it's slowed me down a bit. And I'm a lot more wary, where I open the X Power up. 🙁
I enjoyed the cheese that was the reasonably swift MG5. It was perhaps about as fast when accelerating as any car I’ve owned. I enjoyed it for three years after the almost as good ZS I had for the preceding year. The mini launches at traffic lights was hypnotic and after each satisfying escape, before anyone else was ready to accept an estate car could suddenly produce such a stunt, i reined the whole situation back to “normal”. I kept thinking one of these days one of the sets of spectating eyes might belong to an officer of the law.
So I’ve found the chalk to oppose that cheese - almost the perfect antidote - the Citroen E Berlingo.
It’s just a van albeit with windows and tarted up with alloys and some bonny non white van man paint. The diesel automatic versions that I had were nippy and very fine to drive. This electric one is nippy ++ and just a delight.
I’m going to say it’s twice the vehicle that any other purports to be.
It accelerates nicely - more than folks around expect so often gives you the edge by default.
It’s twice the height (almost) so you can see for miles.
It’s twice as comfortable 😜
It’s twice as useful - can you carry TWO washing machines in yours 🤩
It’s at lest twice as unlikely to get you done for speeding
OK so the handlings only just about twice as precise as a blancmange
but as an enjoyable license preserver I’m loving it.
I can now charge it anytime for 7p per unit and currently getting a solid 3.3 miles per kiloWatt hour.

PS I still miss the five sometimes and wonder what an X power launch really does to the human body when travel above something like 20 mph was at one time deemed impossible 😂😂😂
 
I enjoyed the cheese that was the reasonably swift MG5. It was perhaps about as fast when accelerating as any car I’ve owned. I enjoyed it for three years after the almost as good ZS I had for the preceding year. The mini launches at traffic lights was hypnotic and after each satisfying escape, before anyone else was ready to accept an estate car could suddenly produce such a stunt, i reined the whole situation back to “normal”. I kept thinking one of these days one of the sets of spectating eyes might belong to an officer of the law.
So I’ve found the chalk to oppose that cheese - almost the perfect antidote - the Citroen E Berlingo.
It’s just a van albeit with windows and tarted up with alloys and some bonny non white van man paint. The diesel automatic versions that I had were nippy and very fine to drive. This electric one is nippy ++ and just a delight.
I’m going to say it’s twice the vehicle that any other purports to be.
It accelerates nicely - more than folks around expect so often gives you the edge by default.
It’s twice the height (almost) so you can see for miles.
It’s twice as comfortable 😜
It’s twice as useful - can you carry TWO washing machines in yours 🤩
It’s at lest twice as unlikely to get you done for speeding
OK so the handlings only just about twice as precise as a blancmange
but as an enjoyable license preserver I’m loving it.
I can now charge it anytime for 7p per unit and currently getting a solid 3.3 miles per kiloWatt hour.

PS I still miss the five sometimes and wonder what an X power launch really does to the human body when travel above something like 20 mph was at one time deemed impossible 😂😂😂

Agree, with all you say about your car. And it suits your needs nicely. 🙂👍
But it's so bloody boring. 😉🤪
(No offence) 🙂👍
 
You were lucky with what you got.

Ignore the 10% +/- 2/4mph claims, they are not binding and different forces do different things.

The Speeding Calculator website is a good rough guide to what people can expect.


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I had a clean licence a while ago and and picked up 12 points in a couple of months. 2 x3 points and 1 x 6 points , luckily a kindly magistrate reduced the 6 points to 5 so I ended up on 11 .
It was a horrible experience driving with 11 points on my licence for 3 years knowing that a minor loss of concentration could cost me my licence.
I've stuck to the limits since then even though I'm sorely tempted to "drop" the tailgaters from time to time
 
No excuse. But it's so bloody easy to speed in modern cars. Particularly the likes of the X Power. But I'll definitely have to be very careful, from now on. It will be difficult, though.. 🙄
So true . In my old bangers you could judge your speed by car vibration , at 70mph you think it would fall apart. In the last 20 years or so you could get a car up to 90 mph and not notice a thing in the cabin
 
Thought I'd contribute my experience here.

Was recently given the "opportunity" to do a Speed Awareness course (48mph in a 40, although was an empty dual carriageway). Apparently anything up to 53 could result in a course being offered.

To be honest I am embarrassed as I make it a point of sticking to the limits and this was an occasion where I had a sick cat in the car and was late for the vets. But that is no excuse.

Actually found the course really good and worth the £100. Nine of us, good teacher and most of us (including myself) got a least one thing wrong about speed limits.

Biggest learning points:

1. Dual carriageway is nothing to do with the number of lanes, it is about whether there's a physical separation between carriageways (grass, barrier, kerb, whatever). Continuous tarmac is one large single carriageway even if 4, 6, 8 lanes (so 60mph max).

2. "Crawler" additional lanes don't make it a dual carriageway on one side, still single carriageway speeds (60mph for cars/motorbikes).

3. Many people unaware that vans and trailers have lower speed limits.

4. 30mph default anywhere there are no signs but there are streetlights (20mph in Wales).

These points were new to some/all of our group.

Also found the section on emotional reactions and how to deal with them quite useful.
 
Thought I'd contribute my experience here.

Was recently given the "opportunity" to do a Speed Awareness course (48mph in a 40, although was an empty dual carriageway). Apparently anything up to 53 could result in a course being offered.

To be honest I am embarrassed as I make it a point of sticking to the limits and this was an occasion where I had a sick cat in the car and was late for the vets. But that is no excuse.

Actually found the course really good and worth the £100. Nine of us, good teacher and most of us (including myself) got a least one thing wrong about speed limits.

Biggest learning points:

1. Dual carriageway is nothing to do with the number of lanes, it is about whether there's a physical separation between carriageways (grass, barrier, kerb, whatever). Continuous tarmac is one large single carriageway even if 4, 6, 8 lanes (so 60mph max).

2. "Crawler" additional lanes don't make it a dual carriageway on one side, still single carriageway speeds (60mph for cars/motorbikes).

3. Many people unaware that vans and trailers have lower speed limits.

4. 30mph default anywhere there are no signs but there are streetlights (20mph in Wales).

These points were new to some/all of our group.

Also found the section on emotional reactions and how to deal with them quite useful.
In point number 4 . I once had a ticket when coming of a dual carriageway onto a default 30 mph . I argued that there was no signage to indicate 30mph . Their reply was I should know because the distance between the streetlights is 150 metres ( I think 🤔) .
I apologized for not having my car,or my eyes ,equipped with a laser tape measure and they let me off 😁
 
I had a clean licence a while ago and and picked up 12 points in a couple of months. 2 x3 points and 1 x 6 points , luckily a kindly magistrate reduced the 6 points to 5 so I ended up on 11 .
It was a horrible experience driving with 11 points on my licence for 3 years knowing that a minor loss of concentration could cost me my licence.
I've stuck to the limits since then even though I'm sorely tempted to "drop" the tailgaters from time to time

That happened to me when I first got my XR2. Except that the 5-pointer was the first one. I made it through.

Then something similar happened soon after I traded the XR2 in for the Peugeot 306 GTi6 five years later, only it was only 9 points and I didn't collect them quite so fast. Never had another speeding ticket. The Golf GTi made it to almost 14 with a clean record.

Cunning develops with age.
 
That happened to me when I first got my XR2. Except that the 5-pointer was the first one. I made it through.

Then something similar happened soon after I traded the XR2 in for the Peugeot 306 GTi6 five years later, only it was only 9 points and I didn't collect them quite so fast. Never had another speeding ticket. The Golf GTi made it to almost 14 with a clean record.

Cunning develops with age.
If we’re lucky.
 
Their reply was I should know because the distance between the streetlights is 150 metres ( I think 🤔) .
The distance part of the rule has gone. It's now whenever street lights are present.
Edit. Incorrect information. See post by @johnb80 below.

The other thing I picked up when I was given the same 'opportunity' as @tsedge, is that on the road centre lines, if the paint is longer than the gap a hazard is approaching (e.g. bend on an A road or a central refuge). You're more likely to be prosecuted if you have an incident in their vicinity.
 
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Do you know someone on the XPower design team?
Don't get me started on Quorn. Those damn vegans eating them to extinction
The distance part of the rule has gone. It's now whenever street lights are present.

The other thing I picked up when I was given the same 'opportunity' as @tsedge, is that on the road centre lines, if the paint is longer than the gap a hazard is approaching (e.g. bend on an A road or a central refuge). You're more likely to be prosecuted if you have an incident in their vicinity.
The incident I refer to was probably 30 or 40 years ago.
I be very old 😉
 
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