Does the XPower have any peers?

[JustAnotherMidlifeCrisis]

Not the Volvo EX30 if you ask me. Not only is it more expensive, it's tiny in the back:

 

[JustAnotherMidlifeCrisis]

RRP of £44,995? What a joke.

 

[salty]

Nope, not yet anyway. To be honest don't think it ever will. Certainly not at the price. ??

 

[JonnyG]

Agreed, nothing I can see at a comparable price and size, The Volvo EX30 and Smart #1 BRABUS One are similar in performance and with AWD but make the X-Power look a bargain IMHO,

Leasing options may alter the price comparison though if you keep an eye on lease prices - Leaseloco.com but current;y lease deals on the X-Power wipe the floor with the other two !

 

[salty]

Agreed, nothing I can see at a comparable price and size, The Volvo EX30 and Smart #1 BRABUS One are similar in performance and with AWD but make the X-Power look a bargain IMHO,

Leasing options may alter the price comparison though if you keep an eye on lease prices - Leaseloco.com but current;y lease deals on the X-Power wipe the floor with the other two !

I presume the price charged to lease a car, is based on the purchase price. So an
X Power should always be cheaper to lease as well, like I say only presuming. ?

 

[JonnyG]

I presume the price charged to lease a car, is based on the purchase price. So an
X Power should always be cheaper to lease aswell, like I say only presuming. ?

You'd have thought so but no, they actually vary dramatically, depending on dealer incentives at the time, and to get rid of excess stock etc. Just take a look at the best LeaseLoco value car at the moment.

Current lease price is half the usual price ?

Source : Leaseloco website

 

[salty]

Wow, that's some difference between, Highest and Lowest price.

 

[JonnyG]

For anyone interestested in the Xpower it is also now the cheapest it has ever been on a personal lease :-

I guess demand has now diminished slightly and they need to keep selling them.

Wish I'd waited six months and not gone the PCP route now ?

Source : Leaseloco website

 

[MSvirus]

Not the Volvo EX30 if you ask me. Not only is it more expensive, it's tiny in the back:

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And the problem with EX30 that does not have an acceptable dashboard.

 

[Deleted member 11291]

And the problem with EX30 that does not have an acceptable dashboard.

Agree, I have said previously that I had an order in for an EX30 Plus twin motor last year. However when viewed a static demo back in September was not impressed. Even more functions than the MG4 are located within central screen. I cancelled immediately and ordered the X Power which was cheaper to lease and better equipped.

 

[Tangoed Man]

A 1-yr old Tesla Model 3 Performance .......?

 

[tsedge]

A 1-yr old Tesla Model 3 Performance .......?

If you start including second hand cars then why not consider a 30 year old Lotus or something?

Apples-to-apples is difficult.

I would say it needs to be compared to similar brand new family performance hatchbacks - the M3 is a bigger saloon car and not price competitive new.

Of course, it's a perfectly good buying option to go for second hand vs new, but I don't think it makes a good comparison - they are not really competing with each other.

 

[Tangoed Man]

If you start including second hand cars then why not consider a 30 year old Lotus or something?

Apples-to-apples is difficult.

I would say it needs to be compared to similar brand new family performance hatchbacks - the M3 is a bigger saloon car and not price competitive new.

Of course, it's a perfectly good buying option to go for second hand vs new, but I don't think it makes a good comparison - they are not really competing with each other.

Agreed, but the prices are the same, and car reviewers often compare the value of a new car versus one that is less than 12-month old - which I what I have done. Many would find the Tesla a considerably more desirable piece of kit especially in most areas but especially when it comes to access to its unmatched, anxiety-eliminating Tesla fast charging network. The cars are both apples. Don't get me wrong, I am not particularly a Tesla fan, but Musk does listen to his user base and the brand new Tesla Model 3 has been completely revamped in line with user feedback. My brother takes delivery of one very soon and I am looking forward to seeing how is measures up.

 

[siteguru]

Did that user feedback include removing the indicator and wiper stalks? (Every review I've seen complains about that).

 

[JustAnotherMidlifeCrisis]

No sloppy seconds for me. You’re welcome to the Tesla.

 

[Tangoed Man]

Did that user feedback include removing the indicator and wiper stalks? (Every review I've seen complains about that).

I doubt it, as users would be be unlikely to comment on items already present in the car.

 

[Tangoed Man]

No sloppy seconds for me. You’re welcome to the Tesla.

Agreed. But, their network does more or less eliminate the top concern of all EV drivers, range anxiety.

 

[siteguru]

I doubt it, as users would be be unlikely to comment on items already present in the car.

So why did they remove somethings nobody complained about?

(I know why - it's likely part of their roadmap towards the "yoke" steering "wheel").

 

[JustAnotherMidlifeCrisis]

Agreed. But, their network does more or less eliminate the top concern of all EV drivers, range anxiety.

That may be the top concern of non-EV owners thinking of switching. Buyers have got comfortable.

 

[Bricktop X PWR]

A 1-yr old Tesla Model 3 Performance .......?

I don't agree.
The TM3P gets knocked into a cocked hat, IMO. (Slight exaggeration TBC.)
Hatchback versus boot. No contest.
The size of the MG4XP also makes it a far more practical proposition.
Doesn't have a greenhouse inducing, baldy head burning, glass roof either. ?

I was fascinated by the self driving though.
Couldn't get enough of it and used it on my 35 mile commute every single time.

I used to have a heavy bean bag on the steering wheel so the car continued to drive without keeping on at me to hold the wheel.

I like Tesla and I like the way Musk goes about his business, and don't get me started on the Space X side!

Range anxiety is not an issue for me anymore, so I am quite comfortable with my MG4XP even in the colder weather.

Now when/if Tesla eventually bring out the M2 hatch, I would definitely be interested.