The SE 1100R38 Infotainment Thread

[siteguru]

Yes Polski

Yes, it is there in the list of languages.

 

[haloweenhamster]

R46 it works, that's why I stuck with R46, going to side load R38 HVAC apk to see it that helps
It was R59 that they released the disclaimer

Guessing they didn't do such a thing for R38?

 

[RE4353]

R33 has a bug where the "Display off" function doesn't actually turn off the display but only switches it to black, meaning it never goes completely dark. Can someone check if this is still the case in R38?

 

[siteguru]

An observation, albeit not necessarily related to 1100R38 ... I charged my car overnight last night and so the charge point was in the Waiting state this morning. Whilst still plugged in but not charging I activated the remote HVAC to defrost the car ... after a short while I noticed the lights in the charge port were green. So my car officially recharges the HV battery if you use a feature which tries to drain power from the HV battery.

 

[tsedge]

An observation, albeit not necessarily related to 1100R38 ... I charged my car overnight last night and so the charge point was in the Waiting state this morning. Whilst still plugged in but not charging I activated the remote HVAC to defrost the car ... after a short while I noticed the lights in the charge port were green. So my car officially recharges the HV battery if you use a feature which tries to drain power from the HV battery.

That's good to know.

Hmmm... with Octopus IOG that doesn't work because Octopus schedules your charging slots.

I am planning to switch to Tomato and get back to Zappi scheduled charging in the new year, but also then the car wouldn't be able to initiate a charge if at the wrong time.

Maybe there's a solution...

 

[siteguru]

As I have the SE SR then I charge to 100% whenever I want, so I can just leave the car plugged in as necessary. (I also don't have a time of day tariff so that restriction is out of the way too).

I just thought that this might be an interesting snippet of info for others.

 

[PeteC]

An observation, albeit not necessarily related to 1100R38 ... I charged my car overnight last night and so the charge point was in the Waiting state this morning. Whilst still plugged in but not charging I activated the remote HVAC to defrost the car ... after a short while I noticed the lights in the charge port were green. So my car officially recharges the HV battery if you use a feature which tries to drain power from the HV battery.

I'm pretty sure my Trophy has always done that (since Oct 22). It certainly did today when I checked!

 

[tsedge]

As I have the SE SR then I charge to 100% whenever I want, so I can just leave the car plugged in as necessary. (I also don't have a time of day tariff so that restriction is out of the way too).

I just thought that this might be an interesting snippet of info for others.

Yes, although 100% has nothing to do with it, the Trophy will reliably limit the charge to whatever level is desired.

It is the time of day tariff that is the difference: generally I want the car to charge overnight but I don't mind it topping up in the morning if I am defrosting the car.

The current state of scheduling technology doesn't make this simple. It is the clunky old time-slot approach. I should be able to simply say: "charge the car at night after I plug it in but if it then asks to charge in the morning, let it".

This is what human-oriented design would look like. Not hard to do!

I suppose I can achieve this same thing by defining additional morning charge slots on every day of the week that won't be used normally but kick in with this scenario.

 

[tsedge]

I'm pretty sure my Trophy has always done that (since Oct 22). It certainly did today when I checked!

Mine never used to. Mind you remote defrosting never used to work with the car plugged in AND not charging and now it does. Pretty sure it is down to some updates I had.

 

[PeteC]

Mine might do it be because it has always charged after being plugged in even if it is outside a set schedule, so it has no problem starting a charge when heating even though the scheduled charge has finished. It also carries on charging after the 10 minutes heating has finished. Does yours stop charging when the heating is done?

 

[Semerkand]

As someone who updated from r13 to r38, ACC bothered me a bit. In r38, it started to follow the vehicle in front more closely, which was more useful in r13 in my opinion. It also does not read energy consumption and regan values.

 

[Rolfe]

An observation, albeit not necessarily related to 1100R38 ... I charged my car overnight last night and so the charge point was in the Waiting state this morning. Whilst still plugged in but not charging I activated the remote HVAC to defrost the car ... after a short while I noticed the lights in the charge port were green. So my car officially recharges the HV battery if you use a feature which tries to drain power from the HV battery.

That sounds useful. I had to ask the car to recharge from the Zappi after first heating the battery and then heating the cabin last week. I was wondering if there was a way to do that automatically.

 

[Rolfe]

That's good to know.

Hmmm... with Octopus IOG that doesn't work because Octopus schedules your charging slots.

I am planning to switch to Tomato and get back to Zappi scheduled charging in the new year, but also then the car wouldn't be able to initiate a charge if at the wrong time.

Maybe there's a solution...

Just turn off smart charging and use the Zappi's scheduling when you want to. Octopus only want you to schedule a smart charge once a month to keep on the tariff. I'm doing that now that I realise they will change the allocated slots any time they fancy, and that doesn't suit my system.

 

[tsedge]

Just turn off smart charging and use the Zappi's scheduling when you want to. Octopus only want you to schedule a smart charge once a month to keep on the tariff. I'm doing that now that I realise they will change the allocated slots any time they fancy, and that doesn't suit my system.

I could do that but I have no reason to stay with Octopus then and the rates are cheaper elsewhere.

 

[Rolfe]

What's the advantage of Octopus at all, then?

 

[siteguru]

I don't mind thread drift ... but there's already a separate board for tariff discussions.

 

[Rolfe]

Fair enough, sometimes I forget which thread I'm in. Perhaps I should move some posts.

(Heck, it's only a couple of posts and it's not straightforward. Let's just drop the derail and if we want to continue the discussion we can take it to an appropriate thread.)

 

[Rolfe]

An observation, albeit not necessarily related to 1100R38 ... I charged my car overnight last night and so the charge point was in the Waiting state this morning. Whilst still plugged in but not charging I activated the remote HVAC to defrost the car ... after a short while I noticed the lights in the charge port were green. So my car officially recharges the HV battery if you use a feature which tries to drain power from the HV battery.

This is what I wanted to ask about. Last Friday was the first time since I had the upgrade that I've wanted to heat the battery and the cabin before leaving, but still leave on 100%. It wasn't entirely straightforward.

First I set a timed battery heating to go while the car was charging during the off-peak rate period, just to give it a start, as it had been sitting in a freezing garage for a couple of days. That went OK, and the car was at 100% when I got up.

I noticed that the app recommended heating the battery 90 minutes before departure, so when I got up I started battery heating manually at about 8 am. However it only seemed to heat for 15-20 minutes, possibly because of me having heated it in the middle of the night. It took about 2% out of the car battery, and I had to initiate charging manually to get it back up to 100%. Just before nine I tried asking it to heat the battery again, but got a message that the battery didn't need heating, so that was OK, it had held the heat for over half an hour anyway. Just after nine I asked it to heat the cabin, and it brought the internal temperature up from 3°C to 16° in ten minutes, which was very welcome. But that took another 2% from the battery so I had to get the car to recharge again.

It worked, I went out to a car with a warm battery and a warm cabin, and a battery at 100%. It wasn't a huge faff, but I had to keep fiddling with my phone while I was eating breakfast and sorting out the automatic cat feeders. I was wondering if there was any way I could have made it easier, maybe automated it?

I'm also wondering what the protocol is with the new software.

 

[siteguru]

Remember that I'm not on a time of day tariff and have no schedules set, so when the car is plugged in the charge point sits in the Waiting state. As soon as the car requests a charge the charge point activates.

 

[Rolfe]

What I don't know is whether the car would have started charging on its own if I'd had the Zappi set to "fast", or whether starting it charging from the app (which is what I did) was really necessary.

If that works I could envisage leaving the Zappi on "fast" last thing at night (the car will be full before 5.30 so that's not an issue) and also set the battery to heat during the cheap period. Then in the morning heat it again, and hopefully it will recharge again, then maybe 25 minutes before leaving, pre-heat the cabin to give time for the car to recharge again. I might give it a try some morning when it doesn't matter whether or not I start on 100%.