I will never buy another MG ever again ?

Ah... lots of stuff I don't care about. Yes, Teslas have tons of features, many gimmicky, but most other makes do not. And I wouldn't want a Tesla anyway because of their stupid button-and-stalk free approach to human interaction design and lack of CarPlay, driver's screen, etc...

Yes, the boot up is slow but the response is good with updated software. OTA would be a boon. Mobile app works for me and does what I need. No interest in a digital key, seems pointless. Not interested in car navigation as I use CarPlay. ADAS features could be better but work well enough for the ones I care about (blind spot detection and ACC).

I don't need a bigger screen, I can read the ones I have.
All fair comment, but actually the larger screen then enables Apps, which just like mobile, enhance moving and stationary functionality. Tesla UI is so good, CarPlay is not required, but future CarPlay will manufacturers with various interface options. 100% on Tesla stalks removal, but highly likely that won’t be an issue as car will auto indicate with future software and FSD
 
No interest in a digital key, seems pointless.
I'm not a big fan of the idea either and leave it disabled. But as the feature's there anyway it's worth learning how to enable it and then use it. It could save time and money if you lose your keys away from home one day.
 
I'm not a big fan of the idea either and leave it disabled. But as the feature's there anyway it's worth learning how to enable it and then use it. It could save time and money if you lose your keys away from home one day.
I’m not a fan of the App being reliable enough to consider using it. But one day all functionality will be in the mobile App, or FaceId scan, so keys will be redundant.
 
Wasted two visits and what seemed like an eternity over the August bank holiday weekend, with my local dealer, to get down to £29k inclusive of dealer extra's tied to the discount that I didn't want.

Then had a conversation with Cinderford along the lines of 'this is what we can do one for' with zero hassle and/or haggling, and it completely blew the previous offer away.

Estimated delivery is a week today.? I've just asked for an update and whether it will come with latest software updates - waiting to see what kind of response I get....
 
Estimated delivery is a week today.? I've just asked for an update and whether it will come with latest software updates - waiting to see what kind of response I get....
Good shout, I pick my X Power up on Saturday. Obviously I'm gonna inspect it thoroughly, I've ask for it to be inside so therefore dry. I'm gonna check the undertray and they said they'd bind my phone to the car for me. But in my excitement i forgot to ask about the latest software updates. Gonna phone them tommorow, what should I be asking for? ?
 
All fair comment, but actually the larger screen then enables Apps, which just like mobile, enhance moving and stationary functionality. Tesla UI is so good, CarPlay is not required, but future CarPlay will manufacturers with various interface options. 100% on Tesla stalks removal, but highly likely that won’t be an issue as car will auto indicate with future software and FSD
What specifically needs the bigger screen? I can't say my current screen lacks and I am not interested in apps per se, there are not many things useful to travelling in a car AFAICS.

CarPlay has all the apps I use exactly as I like them, the same as my phone. I appreciate Tesla has equivalents but they are not the same and would be less convenient to switch to.

I am high sceptical on the FSD front. I understand current AI tech (far more limited than the hype suggests) and the capabilities claimed have not materialised many years after Elon said they would. It is comically late at this point. Perhaps they will solve it eventually but even the latest FSD videos show all sorts of situations where the car struggles.

Besides, I don't want a car that drives itself, I want a car that lets me drive and doesn't get in the way.

Nothing against Tesla per se, but their cars have yet to appeal to me.
 
I'm gonna check the undertray and they said they'd bind my phone to the car for me. But in my excitement i forgot to ask about the latest software updates. Gonna phone them tommorow, what should I be asking for? ?
From other threads, seems the big one is infotainment system update R59 for the Trophy/XPower + SIPS (individual pieces of firmware for want of a better explanation). Can easily check system on delivery but checking SIPS versions is likely to be harder / needs a bit more research on my part!

Still, hoping that by raising it (have told them I'm not comfortable accepting vehicle without latest updates) they might at least consider the matter!
 
What specifically needs the bigger screen? I can't say my current screen lacks and I am not interested in apps per se, there are not many things useful to travelling in a car AFAICS.

CarPlay has all the apps I use exactly as I like them, the same as my phone. I appreciate Tesla has equivalents but they are not the same and would be less convenient to switch to.

I am high sceptical on the FSD front. I understand current AI tech (far more limited than the hype suggests) and the capabilities claimed have not materialised many years after Elon said they would. It is comically late at this point. Perhaps they will solve it eventually but even the latest FSD videos show all sorts of situations where the car struggles.

Besides, I don't want a car that drives itself, I want a car that lets me drive and doesn't get in the way.

Nothing against Tesla per se, but their cars have yet to appeal to me.

AGREE ABSOLUTELY!
 
What specifically needs the bigger screen? I can't say my current screen lacks and I am not interested in apps per se, there are not many things useful to travelling in a car AFAICS.

CarPlay has all the apps I use exactly as I like them, the same as my phone. I appreciate Tesla has equivalents but they are not the same and would be less convenient to switch to.

I am high sceptical on the FSD front. I understand current AI tech (far more limited than the hype suggests) and the capabilities claimed have not materialised many years after Elon said they would. It is comically late at this point. Perhaps they will solve it eventually but even the latest FSD videos show all sorts of situations where the car struggles.

Besides, I don't want a car that drives itself, I want a car that lets me drive and doesn't get in the way.

Nothing against Tesla per se, but their cars have yet to appeal to me.
I agree other than I could be doing with some of the graphics and fonts swelling so as to be more noticeable. That could mean a bigger screen perhaps. Maybe some of that has been addressed with newer models as mine is a pre facelift five.
The screen had a bit of a wobbly yesterday when I selected reverse - the rear camera view came up as normal but the ghost of the intro screen also showed. Haven’t had that before nor since - all has been normal again today.
The car goes in for MOT, 3rd service and possibly the Tesla addition/upgrade on Thursday so I’ll mention the screen glitch.
 
What specifically needs the bigger screen? I can't say my current screen lacks and I am not interested in apps per se, there are not many things useful to travelling in a car AFAICS.

CarPlay has all the apps I use exactly as I like them, the same as my phone. I appreciate Tesla has equivalents but they are not the same and would be less convenient to switch to.

I am high sceptical on the FSD front. I understand current AI tech (far more limited than the hype suggests) and the capabilities claimed have not materialised many years after Elon said they would. It is comically late at this point. Perhaps they will solve it eventually but even the latest FSD videos show all sorts of situations where the car struggles.

Besides, I don't want a car that drives itself, I want a car that lets me drive and doesn't get in the way.

Nothing against Tesla per se, but their cars have yet to appeal to me.
CarPlay is an excellent choice for the majority of weaker infotainment screens, eg: MG
Yes, Musk should underpromise and over deliver, but FSD is maturing now, and that will become evident at the 10/10 RoboTaxi event. The latest V12.x versions do move the game on and are doing the business with few interventions. FSD won't force you to not drive, but on the highway etc makes for a much easier drive. Obviously, MG is nowhere in this game, but as their ACC improves it will be quite adequate.
 
The acid test for FSD is how well they work elsewhere than in the USA, especially on RHD cars (so driving on the left).
 
The acid test for FSD is how well they work elsewhere than in the USA, especially on RHD cars (so driving on the left).
Indeed, Tesla are officially releasing RHD support quite soon, supervised. 4-5 years ago I had a go & it was impressive then, but V12.x is light years ahead, getting radically better with very few interventions. Trial areas will be announced at their 10/10 event. MG would be a perfect candidate to licence FSD, anyone car company without FSD in 5 years will be like a car without seat belts, e.g: a non starter.
 
I agree other than I could be doing with some of the graphics and fonts swelling so as to be more noticeable. That could mean a bigger screen perhaps. Maybe some of that has been addressed with newer models as mine is a pre facelift five.
The screen had a bit of a wobbly yesterday when I selected reverse - the rear camera view came up as normal but the ghost of the intro screen also showed. Haven’t had that before nor since - all has been normal again today.
The car goes in for MOT, 3rd service and possibly the Tesla addition/upgrade on Thursday so I’ll mention the screen glitch.

I suppose what I feel about the screen size is that anything larger than what I have in the MG4 ER would be an even greater distraction than it already is with all its gadgetry. And I fear that anything more 'modern' in the way of screen/software would benefit little, as in my Nov 2023 ER, I also get occasional daft glitches with all the totally unnecessary salesman’s delights that the Trophy version has added to it – particularly the 360 deg camera that occasionally switches to totally unrelated views, or gets stuck in reverse view when going forwards – but not often, thankfully. I also hate the switching to side-view at only gentle turns to show a completely incomprehensible (without gluing your driving eyes dangerously to the screen to interpret) side view of nothing useful, just when you are trying to negotiate a complicated junction with the GPS in already catch-up or totally lost (common in France!)

I would have preferred more of an SE-type offering, but I needed the largest battery/range I could get, and that didn’t exist without all the Trophy ‘geekery’. I admit some of it is OK though, but having been driving without incident for well over 60 years, I also don’t need, or want, some AI robot telling me how to drive – when I forget to shut off the ghastly LKA, LCA and FCA before setting off. They are quite simply hazardous to basic observant driving, and can actually be dangerous on well- (or badly-) marked narrow roads.

I also was half-tempted by the X-Power, for fun, but again, and despite the ER's battery size and extra weight, it does make a useful difference in extra range, and with not such an enormous loss of driving ‘zazz’ behind an X-Power – at my age, anyway!

And as to FSD ... NTY {no thank you)!
 
I suppose what I feel about the screen size is that anything larger than what I have in the MG4 ER would be an even greater distraction than it already is with all its gadgetry. And I fear that anything more 'modern' in the way of screen/software would benefit little, as in my Nov 2023 ER, I also get occasional daft glitches with all the totally unnecessary salesman’s delights that the Trophy version has added to it – particularly the 360 deg camera that occasionally switches to totally unrelated views, or gets stuck in reverse view when going forwards – but not often, thankfully. I also hate the switching to side-view at only gentle turns to show a completely incomprehensible (without gluing your driving eyes dangerously to the screen to interpret) side view of nothing useful, just when you are trying to negotiate a complicated junction with the GPS in already catch-up or totally lost (common in France!)

I would have preferred more of an SE-type offering, but I needed the largest battery/range I could get, and that didn’t exist without all the Trophy ‘geekery’. I admit some of it is OK though, but having been driving without incident for well over 60 years, I also don’t need, or want, some AI robot telling me how to drive – when I forget to shut off the ghastly LKA, LCA and FCA before setting off. They are quite simply hazardous to basic observant driving, and can actually be dangerous on well- (or badly-) marked narrow roads.

I also was half-tempted by the X-Power, for fun, but again, and despite the ER's battery size and extra weight, it does make a useful difference in extra range, and with not such an enormous loss of driving ‘zazz’ behind an X-Power – at my age, anyway!

And as to FSD ... NTY {no thank you)!
The bigger screen would def help present navigation and access to other core functions, such as music, radio, without need for intervention.
The latest software allows the dropdown menu to turn dodgy LKA off.
FSD will be an essential & very useful function. If you're tired or have had a drink, you get home without intervention.
 
The bigger screen would def help present navigation and access to other core functions, such as music, radio, without need for intervention.
The latest software allows the dropdown menu to turn dodgy LKA off.
FSD will be an essential & very useful function. If you're tired or have had a drink, you get home without intervention.
Don't try this away from home, kids. ;)

If you've had a drink and are stopped, you'd be nicked - even if you weren't driving.
 
The bigger screen would def help present navigation and access to other core functions, such as music, radio, without need for intervention.
The latest software allows the dropdown menu to turn dodgy LKA off.
FSD will be an essential & very useful function. If you're tired or have had a drink, you get home without intervention.

Sorry - far from convinced, I'm afraid.

The car's due its 1st 'service' in late November. It's on R46 a.t.m., so we'll see if the update helps. But where/which open screen does the new LKA drop-down menu emanate from, and is there anything else useful on the menu, out of interest?
 
Sorry - far from convinced, I'm afraid.

The car's due its 1st 'service' in late November. It's on R46 a.t.m., so we'll see if the update helps. But where/which open screen does the new LKA drop-down menu emanate from, and is there anything else useful on the menu, out of interest?
You just drag from top of screen down to show menu, but you need latest version R59 for the shortcut.
 
And I fear that anything more 'modern' in the way of screen/software would benefit little, as in my Nov 2023 ER, I also get occasional daft glitches with all the totally unnecessary salesman’s delights that the Trophy version has added to it – particularly the 360 deg camera that occasionally switches to totally unrelated views, or gets stuck in reverse view when going forwards – but not often, thankfully. I also hate the switching to side-view at only gentle turns to show a completely incomprehensible (without gluing your driving eyes dangerously to the screen to interpret) side view of nothing useful, just when you are trying to negotiate a complicated junction with the GPS in already catch-up or totally lost (common in France!)
I'm assuming you don't know - there is an option to turn the camera off from appearing automatically in turns etc... but it is in a non-obvious place. I'm away for work at the moment without the car and I can't remember exactly where it is but I'm sure others here can say. I turned it off in mine.
 
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